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by Jusme
Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:25 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Avenger Arms in Stafford
Replies: 119
Views: 27010

Re: Avenger Arms in Stafford

treadlightly wrote:Gun shops, like all shops, should welcome open and concealed carry because those people are going to be their nicest, safest customers.

But I can also see some attractive flawed logic for a gun store. Think about how many customers behave in a gun store. The clerk clears the gun (we hope) and hands it to a tire kicker, who then proceeds to point it at self and everyone else in the store. It makes me cringe.

A gun in the counter is in an unknown state, so, technically, we consider it loaded.

Then the counter clerk clears it and we see the chamber is empty. Technically, we consider it loaded. Not much changed by clearing the gun and all four rules still apply.

A carrier has to remember his gun needs to stay holstered, even in an environment when every birdbrain around him is sweeping the crowd with the guns they are looking at.

Fortunately, it's not that much to remember. The gun in your holster is standing watch. Don't create any distractions from that.

A gun store that insists on that etiquette is using a teachable moment to keep everyone safer.

Which makes the valid logic to welcome lawful, safe carry.

:iagree:

I know that there are some real issues either with folks who have forgotten the safety rules, or never learned them in the first place. I have OC in all of the guns stores I have been in since 1/1/16, and have had no issues, or seen any signage. But, as you stated, my carry gun is not there to be handled, for anything other than defending against an attack. If I want to have work done on my carry gun, check holster fit, etc., I will unload before entering with it, and have the slide locked back, or a chamber flag inserted with no mag in it.
by Jusme
Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:03 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Avenger Arms in Stafford
Replies: 119
Views: 27010

Re: Avenger Arms in Stafford

I found the place I saw this. It is Top guns in Indiana.

by Jusme
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:31 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Avenger Arms in Stafford
Replies: 119
Views: 27010

Re: Avenger Arms in Stafford

rotor wrote:
Jusme wrote:Welcome to the forum avenger arms!! :tiphat:

As you can probably tell we are pretty enthusiastic when signs come down that prohibit us from carrying. I can understand the fear, of having people walk in with loaded guns to trade, or have work done on them. I saw a great possible solution on another site, where the guns store had chamber flags available just outside the door for people to use to ensure they were unloaded before entering. Just a thought.

Stick around and you will find that we are a great group of folks to get to know.!! :clapping:
What? Pull your gun out, unload and put a chamber flag in?
Only a gun you would taking in to trade, buy accessories for, or have gunsmith work performed. Your carry gun would still be safely ensconced in a holster. There are numerous accounts of people walking in with guns to be handled, and they are loaded.
The chamber flags would be for those guns, so that the customer could make sure they aren't loaded, and give the store personell peace of mind.
by Jusme
Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:56 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Avenger Arms in Stafford
Replies: 119
Views: 27010

Re: Avenger Arms in Stafford

Welcome to the forum avenger arms!! :tiphat:

As you can probably tell we are pretty enthusiastic when signs come down that prohibit us from carrying. I can understand the fear, of having people walk in with loaded guns to trade, or have work done on them. I saw a great possible solution on another site, where the guns store had chamber flags available just outside the door for people to use to ensure they were unloaded before entering. Just a thought.

Stick around and you will find that we are a great group of folks to get to know.!! :clapping:
by Jusme
Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:56 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Avenger Arms in Stafford
Replies: 119
Views: 27010

Re: Avenger Arms in Stafford

TVGuy wrote:They posted this on their Facebook page 40 minutes ago:
We have been questioned multiple times about our status of having both 30.06 and 30.07 signs posted outside of our store. That is correct. This is meant for the protection of our staff and surrounding businesses. If you have an LTC, it is required that you show the identification to the camera outside of the entrance and then you will be allowed into the store with your firearm. We apologize if this aggravates potential and current customers, but again, it is for the safety of our staff.
Not the brightest people in the world.


That is just the opposite of what their signage says. The signage, specifically prohibits carry by LTC holders. How can they then "allow" an LTC holder to enter, with a loaded firearm, upon verification of their LTC? :shock:
I have to assume that they don't offer LTC classes.

:banghead:

Are any of their staff LTC holders? And if so, are they allowed to carry, on the premisis?
by Jusme
Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:52 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Avenger Arms in Stafford
Replies: 119
Views: 27010

Re: Avenger Arms in Stafford

I could understand a sign saying something like: " Please ensure, that any gun you plan on handling in our store is unloaded. All loaded guns must remain holstered, at all times."
by Jusme
Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:05 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Avenger Arms in Stafford
Replies: 119
Views: 27010

Re: Avenger Arms in Stafford

I don't plan on being in the Stafford area, but if I am, I won't be visiting that gun store.

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