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TresHuevos wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

SMRoot wrote:Is there any way to clearly tighten up the wording of the statutes so that having a glass of wine with dinner doesn't mean that you have to leave your handgun at home, but still doesn't allow people to carry while truly impaired?

It already is the law. The standard for intoxication for carrying IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS FOR DRIVING. If you can't have a glass without being INTOXICATED, then don't carry and don't drive. Intoxication is not having the normal use of your faculties OR being 0.08 or more BAC. In the absence of a BAC test, the prosecution will have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you did not have normal use of your faculties. There are plenty of DWI lawyers that specializing in raising a doubt, and if you are not driving I am not aware of a requirement for you to submit to a blood/breath test.

This is straight from the Department of Redundancy Department

I thought it was the Department of Redundancy, Repetition, and Echo Chamber Department Department.

Middle Age Russ wrote:

The headline should read: New bill wastes legislative time and taxpayer dollars on something that is already illegal!.. just like so many other feel good bills from the left.

How many legislative committees spend time looking into whether a proposed law is completely, or even mostly, redundant and therefore a waste of time and energy? One reform at the State and/or Federal level would be to ensure that a bill's author provides documentation of all current laws relating to the topic at hand to the committee initially looking at a bill, and includes reasoning why the new law is needed beyond the existing ones.

So much time is wasted already on redundant bills, that will have zero impact, or enhancement of existing laws.

I will have to see the draft of this proposed bill, but, while I don't condone mixing alcohol and gun powder, this forms a preemptive assumption of criminal activity. Being intoxicated, does not mean that a person will use a gun illegally, or even irresponsibly. Secondly, where does this "carrying while under the influence" have to occur? If I have a few beers at my house, and put my gun beside my bed before turning in, would I be guilty of a crime?

What will they plan to do the next time a person under the influence stabs someone? Will they then want to include knives in the law? Baseball bats?

An LTC holder can already be charged for carrying while intoxicated, with no statutorial blood alcohol level. This sounds like just a catch-all for everyone else. If a person uses a gun illegally, what will this law accomplish? Aggravated assault, and murder are already illegal, so how will this change that?

Lastly, would this law have prevented, the tragedy, that they are using to justify this bill?