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by Jusme
Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:07 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Knock on door at midnight
Replies: 34
Views: 10934

Re: Knock on door at midnight

Texas_Blaze wrote:I get the critique on the verbiage. Noted for any future occurrences. It was just my mindset of trying to scare off the persons, but words matter & choosing wisely is important.

I thought it strange as well that all three aglommorated near my front door. But then I also think of how uneducated I was prior on recognizing threats and how ignorant I was on how to not portray myself as a threat, especially at an officer.

The car started right up without the cop providing a jump. I have it on camera. Honestly I was a little peeved that no ID was requested by the officer.

I'm sure that the LP was noted, and documented, also, as you stated, they may have been known to the officer(s). I don't know what jurisdiction you're in, but officers (at least in my experience) very seldom make a call, without documenting who they met with, just for future reference.
by Jusme
Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:17 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Knock on door at midnight
Replies: 34
Views: 10934

Re: Knock on door at midnight

goose wrote:I think that OP did well. And I agree with the thought about changing the verbiage. I like the message of "I've already helped by calling the popo to come and assist." If they are good guys, they will appreciate the LEO help. If they aren't good guys, they'll be looking for someone else to request a jump from.

As for the conflicting emotions of helping vs. protecting, I get it. I have the same thoughts. BUT! If two of my buddies and I were dead on the road:
1) as already stated, one of us would likely have a phone charged up.
2) we would not all three be an imposing force on a porch. Heck, even when I take my Scout sons around for canned food door hangers, etc, I stay back at the curb and the boys go up to the door. Simply to be less intimidating even with Scout uniforms on. Anyone can pretend to be Scouts. I consider my staying back at the curb (in plain sight mind you) a courtesy to the home owners. The three dudes in question, all standing by the door, weren't being smart or courteous even if they were good guys. One guy goes to the door. When he finds out the police are on the way, they thank the homeowner and apologize for waking them, but appreciate the help.

I think that a person could always be willing to help daughters and sons without exposing their families too much. A phone call to the police is always a good start. Letting the folks on the other side know that the police are coming. Then if they still would like to come in, chances are you have weeded out 99% of the ner-do-wells. We can also do things like having our family on alert inside while said son/daughter and I wait out on the porch with coco and a bunch of throw blankets. Police notification is key. No criminal is real interested in paper trails that they are now a part of.

As a side thought, cars going down the road rarely die needing a jump. Once the alternator is dead, the jump won't last anyway. I think that the OP did really well. If their car was parked and the battery drained, they should seek assistance from the place they were parked.
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This, I understand being stranded, and I have had to ask for assistance, from good Samaritans. I always made sure to have my DL in hand to show them so they could call the police if they wanted to. Late night door knocks very seldom produce good results, and I would be very hesitant to open the door for three young men, late at night. I agree with the blanket idea while they wait in the cold, but they won't be coming in. Everyone in my house would be armed, in case they tried to force the issue. I would also probably not leave my house to assist them, because as you stated, if their car died while driving, a jump start won't help them. Additionally, there could be cohorts waiting until they think the house is unguarded, to strike. A call to the police who can get roadside assistance to them would be the best option. Hopefully these were just poorly prepared folks who didn't realize the importance of having a back up plan in case of a breakdown.

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