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by Jusme
Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:00 am
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Topic: Patreus. For Common Sense Gun Control?
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earlwb wrote:I sometimes think that Trump is deliberately dragging in all sorts of people to throw the press and media off the track. The media has a small mob of people camped outside of his elevators at his Trump building in NYC. So basically the media knows everyone who is coming and going. They even use cameras to zoom in and try to read any documents the people might be carrying too.

I don't know if he is using a "bait and switch" technique, but neither he nor any of his people are talking to the media, and they can't stand it. They then begin speculating and quoting "unnamed" sources for every person they see. Most of the quotes are just from other media members who started speculating. Trump is simply not going to give the media anything, so to get back at him, they postulate about someone, and then denigrate the choice, before they have any facts. Nothing new there, but it's funny to watch. They are even criticizing the choices, he actually has made, because he has chosen so many former military members. They will never learn, and all they want to do is try to stir up controversy. I hope he keeps them outside through the coldest weather they have in NYC, and not announce any more appointments until the last minute.JMHO
by Jusme
Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:01 am
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Topic: Patreus. For Common Sense Gun Control?
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allisji wrote:The fact that we're even talking about Patreaus for Secy of State is a little bothersome simply because of his conviction for sharing classified information. Just having Petraeus as a candidate is sending a message that mishandling of classified information is not nearly as bad as what he had said it was all throughout the campaign against Hillary Clinton.


No one but the media has indicated that Patreus is a candidate for SOS. Trump has met with a lot of people, and the media is camped out by Trump tower and speculating on everyone who walks in. As I said, I think Trump is just picking the brains of a lot of people. Who better to find out how "not" to do something than from someone who has been there and done that? I'm also sure that Patreus, despite his flaws, and mistakes can offer some insight, on other potential appointees.JMHO
by Jusme
Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:01 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Patreus. For Common Sense Gun Control?
Replies: 36
Views: 4553

Re: Patreus. For Common Sense Gun Control?

allisji wrote:The fact that we're even talking about Patreaus for Secy of State is a little bothersome simply because of his conviction for sharing classified information. Just having Petraeus as a candidate is sending a message that mishandling of classified information is not nearly as bad as what he had said it was all throughout the campaign against Hillary Clinton.


No one but the media has indicated that Patreus is a candidate for SOS. Trump has met with a lot of people, and the media is camped out by Trump tower and speculating on everyone who walks in. As I said, I think Trump is just picking the brains of a lot of people. Who better to find out how "not" to do something than from someone who has been there and done that? I'm also sure that Patreus, despite his flaws, and mistakes can offer some insight, on other potential appointees.JMHO
by Jusme
Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:12 am
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Topic: Patreus. For Common Sense Gun Control?
Replies: 36
Views: 4553

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mojo84 wrote:Jusme,
I agree. I was just sharing my surprised Patraeu is as involved in gun control efforts. Considering this, I would hate to see him as SOS whether or other cabinet postion whether or not Trump is actually considering him or not.

Also, I am disapointed in Trump's selection of McConnell's wife for a cabinet position. Just because I voted for Trump over Hillary, doesn't mean he isn't going to make some decisions with which I disagree or find disappointing. I consider McConnell one of the leaders of the swamp and appointing his wife to a cabinet position is contradictory to Trump's "drain the swamp" promise.

This doesn't mean I am trashing Trump or dissing his entire body of work as the president before he is even sworn in.


I had read, maybe on here, about Patreus, joining with the Giffords some time back. I'm sure there will be a lot of decisions Trump will make that will not completely fall in line with my views either. I just keep in mind that the "draining of the swamp" will be a slow process, along with undoing all of the damage caused by BHO over the last 8 years. Trump will not be able to kick out elected congress members who will fight tooth and nail to keep their positions of power. He won't be able to push through every piece of legislation he may want. But cabinet posts are assigned and he can replace them whenever he wants, so if the people he selects, don't live up to his expectations, or start undermining what he wants to do, they will, more than likely be gone.
This is also a learning time for Trump. He has no experience as an elected public servant, so he will have to rely on those with more experience, until he gets his feet wet.I believe that is why he is meeting with so many people, at this time, some may be in consideration for posts, and others may just be a brain trust for information. JMHO
by Jusme
Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:43 am
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Topic: Patreus. For Common Sense Gun Control?
Replies: 36
Views: 4553

Re: Patreus. For Common Sense Gun Control?

mojo84 wrote:The problem is Dana Loesch is not part of MSM. She is an NRA commentator and strong gun rights advocate. I also would not consider Stripes a part of MSM.

I have seen nothing to refute Trump is considering Patreus as one of his options for SOS. Whether he chooses him, only time will tell.

Oh I'm not doubting anyone as to their thoughts on Patreus, or even the source, I have a lot of respect for Dana Loesch but unless, she sat in on the meeting, she can't truly know for sure, what was discussed. I think Trump is covering all bases, some of these people may have sought a meeting with him, such as Romney. My point being, that there has been so much speculation, and so much second guessing. Trump has proven all of his detractors wrong so far, including those in the Republican party. I am just taking a wait and see attitude. Since Trump hasn't contacted me to get any of my opinions, or suggestions, I can't definitely say what his plan is. I too will be watching, to see how it plays out, but I am just not going to get too excited about who he meets with on any particular day. JMHO
by Jusme
Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:24 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Patreus. For Common Sense Gun Control?
Replies: 36
Views: 4553

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bblhd672 wrote:Trump getting dangerously close to backtracking on every single issue he rallied a base around. Appointing an anti-gunner to any cabinet position is a no-go.


I haven't given in to anything reported on MSM regarding Trump's choices. They are still locked out of his inner sanctum (where they should be) and they can't stand it. Trump is doing his due diligence in selecting his people. He has met with several, and probably spoken by phone to countless others. Some who disagree with him are probably getting the "get on board or get run over" speech.
The media is just grasping at straws with everyone they see walk into Trump tower. We will know soon enough who he has selected, and also whether or not he is truly backtracking on anything. The left is so afraid that he will follow through on everything he said he would do, anything they can make up, or take out of context to make him look like he is waffling, they will use. JMHO

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