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JagsfanNtexas wrote:

doncb wrote:I want to see all force of law removed from 30.06. Here's why. My job takes me to hospitals and clinics every day. I leave home and lock my gun in a lock box in my car and go in to the hospital. Leave and go to the next hospital, etc. Now all of them are posted so my gun has to stay in my car the entire day. I have to walk across parking lots multiple times unarmed. I've gotten into a bad habit of not even bothering to take my gun a lot of days because why bother. It's just going to be locked up all day. I don't like being treated like some kind of threat just because someone wets themselves at the thought of someone having a gun.

Would you be willing to make any concessions in other areas of the law to see that happen? It seems most people that have answered have the same stance as this, but not many people would care to give anything up for it.

I think what you are discovering, is that,we as LTC holders, believe that we have already jumped through enough hoops just to get where we are, and have proven our trustworthiness, more than we should have had to.
The original question you asked involved more mandatory training to obtain a few more concessions, from the left. I have not heard anyone from the left proposing any lifting of restrictions on LTC holders in exchange for more training.
What purpose would be served by LTC holders agreeing to something no one has asked for, in exchange for things that should never have been a restriction in the first place?

Basically, in my humble opinion, we should be demanding more freedoms, rather than relinquishing any we have gained. We don't "owe" anyone any more proof of our intentions, our reasons for obtaining our LTC, or show how law abiding, we are, the verdict is in on all of those things. More mandatory training, won't provide any more evidence. It is time to get our needs heard.

I don't think we need to "give up" anything. Requiring more training, for a constitutional right, flies directly in the face of "Shall Not Be Infringed", of which, we already have enough examples. I think that we should be able to legally carry anywhere LEO are permitted to carry. With the only restricted areas, being secured areas of jails and prisons, and secured areas of an airport. Even off duty, LEO can carry in courtrooms, even if they are party to a case, not connected with their job duties, including divorce, child custody, civil lawsuits etc. Off duty LEO can carry into any public school in Texas, professional, college, and high school sporting events, and TABC posted 51% premises.

They are not required to perform any additional firearms training by law, and are only required to meet the minimum standards of TECLOSE required continuing education courses. Each department may set different standards. Our record of being law abiding, far outweighs that of LEO, but we are still regarded, as somehow less competent. Please understand, I am not trying to bash LEO, I used to be one, so my experience with the requirements, is first hand.

So to answer your question, we already "give up" far too much, while still being denigrated to second class citizen status, by the general public, and lawmakers. JMHO