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by Jusme
Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:26 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: 73 year old Florida woman shot dead in citizens police academy demonstration
Replies: 59
Views: 16655

Re: 73 year old Florida woman shot dead in citizens police academy demonstration

Liberty wrote:Not so sure about the trollness of the post. Reading between the lines, I think this might be someone looking or studying into the Armed security business, and is concerned about safety. She might be misinformed and believes that only professional and licenced people have guns. I don't know just guessing but I would hate to turn off a potential ally.

I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt. English may not be the first language either.
by Jusme
Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:33 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: 73 year old Florida woman shot dead in citizens police academy demonstration
Replies: 59
Views: 16655

Re: 73 year old Florida woman shot dead in citizens police academy demonstration

Excaliber wrote:
TexasTornado wrote:
parabelum wrote:
MeMelYup wrote:
Beiruty wrote:While clearing and making gun safe. I speculate this what happened
He racked the pistol, eject a bullet BEFORE removing the magazine.
Removed the magazine and declared the pistol safe. It was Glock with no manual safety
And, the rest is will go in the annals of the news magazines.
Wouldn't have to be a Glock. A lot of firearms sold specifically to police don't have the no magazine lockout.
It was a revolver.

"Lewis said that the department was unaware that live ammunition existed for the revolver he also said he was not sure how the fact that the gun was loaded was missed. He said that it was the department's belief that only blanks were available to the officer using the weapon."

http://www.news-press.com/story/news/cr ... /88500140/
I've never seen or handled a blank, but would it look any different loaded into the weapon?

I can understand the additional drama/realism of using blanks, but I think we've shown here that it's an unneeded risk. Add the sound effects via some speakers if needed.
There's a good possibility the officer didn't know the difference between a blank and a live round.

The use of blanks at close range can also cause very serious injury and should not have been even considered under the circumstances described.

Everyone involved in planning or approving this tragedy was woefully negligent and likely ignorant.

Exactly, blanks are loud, and even the propellant at close range can and has caused injuries. We only used blanks in training outdoors, for our practicals, and never at close range. They do look, and feel different, I can't imagine loading a live round and mistaking it for a blank.
by Jusme
Wed Aug 10, 2016 1:12 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: 73 year old Florida woman shot dead in citizens police academy demonstration
Replies: 59
Views: 16655

Re: 73 year old Florida woman shot dead in citizens police academy demonstration

A similar situation occurred several years ago at an Arlington Police Academy training course (1990 I think) Where the training officer accidentally used a real gun instead of a blank firing training pistol, and shot a student in the head. I know negligent homicide charges were filed, but I don't remember the outcome.

Sad story all the way around, I know the officer would never have done something like that intentionally, but it's one of those mistakes that you can't go back and fix.

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