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by hoss4570
Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:15 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
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Re: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????

locknload wrote:Hoss, my heart goes out to you. I, too, have been the victim of crime, though mine was attempted rape ... twice. So, I understand being so angry and hurt and violated that you could kill. However, if you missed, and the bullet entered a neighbor's house and hit someone, could you live with it? That is what I have had to wonder in my own case. If I hurt someone in the process of defending my property, I don't know if I could live with that. If I had a clear shot and the BG refused to stop and was facing me, I might shoot, if I had no other option. However, I have decided that I would have to not be angry at the time and would have to make certain that I had my wits about me; otherwise, I have decided not to put my finger on the trigger, because my decision process would be compromised. Also, I have decided that I would have to feel that in some way my life was in danger. Of course, unlike you, I have no tools of my trade to worry about. That would put a whole different spin on my decisions, and I would have to work through that aspect and haven't a clue right now what I'd decide about that. You have to do what you have to do, and no one has the right to second guess you or judge you, as they are not the ones who have to live with your decision ... you are. I will support you, whatever you decide to do, even if I might not decide to do the same for myself. In my case, I'm hoping that I never have to face a third rape attempt. However, if I do, I'm hoping that the BG will see my gun and run, as I will only do what he forces me to do.

Other suggestions: Have you checked local Pawn Shops, Sales Ads, machine shops, chop shops, etc.? Also, I would be on the lookout, if the welder could be removed from the trailer, for what the lawn men using to pull their equipment.

Many illegals make their livings from theft. That's a way of life in their country, and they bring their ways with them, when they come here. How do I know? My church's Mission Board has made a report to that effect. Also, I caught a couple of illegal men in a stolen P/U, with plates from a different car, trying to steal my neighbor's trailer out of his yard. I just happened to be going out my front door, and one of them was knocking on the front door, calling out to them, asking if anyone was home. Everyone, even their lawn crew, knows that they are gone during the day, so something just struck me as being wrong. I stood behind my car with my hands on my hips, watching the man examine the hitch on the trailer. When they saw me, they left really fast. They were young, but they had a walker in the bed of the truck, along with a little kid's bicycle. So, I followed them around the neighborhood at a distance. It was obvious that they were cruising the neighborhood, looking for things to steal. Then, one of them went to the front door of a house and knocked. No one answered, so he took the lawn mower that was on the front lawn. I called 9-1-1, and followed them until the cops arrived, giving them a description of the P/U and license plate number. They were illegal, and the 9-1-1 operator said that was the way many of our local illegals make a living or supplement their living. They sell what they steal to local perpetual Garage Sales.

I second the recommendation to get video surveillance. Also, there are those cameras at Academy that take pictures of the deer, when they go by and trigger the electric eye. We have lights that go on, when someone goes by. You can also buy an alarm at Home Depot that will go on, when the lights go on ... either in the house only or outside, too. The camera systems can be found at Home Depot and Sam's, too. Don't rig up a gun to go off, because that's illegal ... however tempting it may be.

From my perspective, it is much more delicious a victory to become pro-active and set a trap/self-defense system for these BG's that will identify them to the Police. I'd have cameras all over the place to "shoot" them from every angle possible, plus alarms, plus lights. Now, that's the kind of shooting that would just thrill me to no end! :hurry: Think how great it would feel, sitting in court, as your evidence sends them away ... or, more likely, gets them deported.

Being pro-active, also, helps to get over the bad feelings of being violated. It's the best cure that there is for the PTSD that follows something like what happened to you. Post Traumatic Stress does not have to be permanent or bad, if you do something to counter-act it. Working it out, like you are doing, in this thread is a good step.

Good luck!
I respect your opinion and thank you for your comments and yes, I have checked around at the pawn shops, welding machine type mechanic shops and everywhere I could think no, no luck. We have had a rash of welding machines stole here, some 400 in our town alone in the last year. The sherriff here told me my machine was probally out of state before the sun went down the next day, either in Louisanna, new mexico or even old mexico. It's gone. And with reguards to shooting one of me neighbors, I live in the county with my nearest neighbor nearly a mile away. And I will shoot next time, given the oppertunity. :fire :fire
by hoss4570
Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:07 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

Re: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????

Bubba wrote:Maybe bang, maybe not, haven't been in that exact situation.
Never had to pull the trigger but came close numerous times and I did loose sleep because of those events.
Several of the scum that I encountered probably needed it and I still wonder "what if ..."
It's NOT a happy or casual thought being in condition red.
I Really don't think I'd loose a minutes sleep over shooting these scum. I DID, however, loose sleep over the loss of my welding machine/trailer. I thought I was gonna have a stroke when I found it missing, I really did. :mad5 :mad5 :fire :fire
by hoss4570
Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:10 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

Re: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????

age_ranger wrote:I think I might attempt to stop them. At gunpoint if necessary, but would only shoot if confronted. If they drove away, I'm not sure any amount of property is worth using deadly force to retrieve and would probably get as much info for the police as possible..
Your opinion, but until it happens to you and you feel how bad it hurts to have these lazy thugs steal what you have worked hard for, and feel the pain of having tp spend thousands of dollars to replace what they have taken, you don't know . I do know and will stop them given the chance. :fire :fire :fire :fire
by hoss4570
Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:17 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

Re: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????

WildBill wrote:
Hoss - It sounds like you have some thieving coyotes around your place. Seems like they rip you off and wait until you replace it and then come around again. Do you think it could be the same people? Since you got your new trailer and welding stuff are you doing anything different to make sure it doesn't get taken? :fire :fire :fire :fire :woohoo
Its a dang shame to have to do it but it stayes locked up in the shop now. All of my stuff, tools and the like I have to take up space in the shop to keep them from being stolen. And yes, I do think it's the same group of scum. :fire :fire :fire :fire
by hoss4570
Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:15 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

Re: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????

lawrnk wrote:
hoss4570 wrote:I;m tellin yall, this HURT when they stole my welder. It has cost me 10.000 dollars in the last month and still have more to go. I WILL shoot next time given a chance. Yall do whatever you think is best. At least they won't do it to other innocent people, asleep in their own homes. I WILL NOT roll over and play dead and let these scum steal my stuff if I can help it. :fire :fire :fire :fire
:iagree:

If it were a bike, it is theirs and I'll call 9/11. If its 10k worth of stuff, what I use to make a living and support my family, I would shoot to maintain possession of that equipment.
I started to say I aggree with you but I feel like I'm being picked on by theives around here. In the last year they have stolen two expensive mountian bikes out of my front yard, my pipe jacks, my fab horses, two tool boxs out of the bed of my truck, the welding leads off of my welder THEN the whole welder, trailer included. I don't know if I could contain myself if I caught them stealing. I like to think I would not shoot a man over a pair of plairs but then again, they are MINE and not his, they are on MY property, not his. So I really can't say. I don't go up on anybodys property without permisson . :fire :fire :fire :fire
by hoss4570
Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:08 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

Re: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????

I;m tellin yall, this HURT when they stole my welder. It has cost me 10.000 dollars in the last month and still have more to go. I WILL shoot next time given a chance. Yall do whatever you think is best. At least they won't do it to other innocent people, asleep in their own homes. I WILL NOT roll over and play dead and let these scum steal my stuff if I can help it. :fire :fire :fire :fire
by hoss4570
Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:37 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

Re: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????

Good post. :iagree: :iagree: :fire :fire
by hoss4570
Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:10 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

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I enjoyed reading your posts, so no harm done. :fire :fire :fire :fire
by hoss4570
Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:58 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

Re: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????

No sir, no luck in finding the welder or trailer. It has been replaced but I would still like to have the other one back, but it's not going to happen.
by hoss4570
Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:07 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

Re: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????

Everybody reacts in a different way and now especially knowing how bad it hurt to get hit by these theiving thugs I know I will not hesitate to shoot in the future. Bottom line, leave my stuff alone. I don't go on anybody elses property to steal, and I want the same treatment extended to me. :fire :fire
by hoss4570
Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:13 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

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I know the feeling. I replaced the trailer and welding machine today and got a bargin. $5,000.00 for a used Lincoln 200 amp and used trailer. Life goes on.
by hoss4570
Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:49 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

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My home owners will not cover the loss. Second hand replacement cost is around 10-12 thousand dollars. Thats buying used welder and tools, used trailer. :twisted: :twisted: :fire :fire
by hoss4570
Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:18 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

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GrillKing wrote:Hoss4570,

Even though we disagree on whether or not to shoot, I am sorry for your loss. I don't want to get too caught up in the discussion as a 'hypothetical what if' scenario to forget that there were scum who did you wrong and cost you significant financial loss. Not just the loss of the tools and that replacement cost, but the loss of use of the tools to earn a living in the mean time.

I do hope the equipment is found soon and those responsible for it's theft apprehended. All my disagreement is my opinion of what is right for me, we don't have to agree on that to agree that there is evil in the world and hope they are appropriately punished.

Best Regards,

Gary
Your right, and thank you.
by hoss4570
Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:04 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
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GrillKing wrote:
Hoss4570,

No I don't work with my hands,
OOPS, this new stuff is kind of hard to get used to, :oops: :oops:
by hoss4570
Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:02 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: WOULD YOU SHOOT???????????
Replies: 95
Views: 13508

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GrillKing wrote:
No I don't work with my hands,
Thats what I thought....................:fire :fire

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