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ScottDLS wrote:

rotor wrote:Don't you want the legal right to tell anyone to "get off my property"?

I want the legal right to tell an off duty cop to get off my property for carrying, but I don't have it. I also want the right to tell my employees to take their guns in cars off my property (parking lot), but I don't have either.

Life is full of trade offs. The legislature struck a balance. It may not be the balance we would have chosen, but it's not inherently unreasonable.

Dreamer42 wrote:After all these years as a CHL holder I don't know why this never occurred to me. I see numerous posts about old and/or non compliant signs and how we are advised to "carry away". However, in the absence of signage of any kind, if someone gives verbal notice "Hey, sir, you can't carry here" that is is good as gold. Just for discussion sake, and being devil's advocate, shouldn't the verbal notice at least be a certain phrase or collection of specific words so as to be "compliant?" Seems like a double standard in semantics to me.

The smoking dispute aside, the statute's philosophy is that property owners get to say whether they want others to carry guns on their property. I'm a strong property rights guy and think that is as it should be. The owner gets to choose whether to ban weapons, and the customer gets to choose whether to patronize the owners. Vive le difference.

A compliant sign is one way an owner can tell prospective customers not to bring weapons. The rules for compliant signs are strict so that those who carry have reasonable assurance of seeing the signs and knowing they are effective before subjecting themselves to a potential trespassing charge. But those strict rules have no relevance to a verbal warning. If we get a verbal warning, the owner has adequately expressed his preferences, and we must comply. That is as it should be.

G26ster wrote:

NTexCopRetired wrote:We have already taken away the right of a property owner to say whether smoking is allowed on property they own and pay taxes.

Can you cite an example of this?

The City of San Antonio.