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by LucasMcCain
Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:04 pm
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Topic: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1
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Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

mojo84 wrote:I don't know if Hillary was giving hand signals or not. However, the Snopes blurb does nothing to legitimately refute the claim it was. It was obvious they were both working hard to try and look in calm and in under self control, in other words presidential. I can see how her giving a hand signal to Lester in order to get him to give her the microphone so she wouldn't have to try and talk over or interrupt Donald would be a viable way of doing this. Whether or not that is what was happening, I have no idea. Would I say she and Lester are above that, absolutely not.

Putting too much credence into what snopes publishes could make one look pretty silly.
That hadn't even occurred to me, but you make a very good point. Several analyses I have read of the debate claimed that it was far less about what was said, but how they presented themselves. Trying to manipulate that through cheating certainly sounds like the Secretary of Satan. Wait, did I spell that wrong?
by LucasMcCain
Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:44 pm
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Topic: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1
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Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

JALLEN wrote:
dale blanker wrote:Ok, well just in case there's an interest in reasoning about the hand signal conspiracy, see http://www.snopes.com/debate-secret-hand-signals/
:banghead:
That is hardly a convincing refutation of the original premise by Snopes.

Whether it is actually true or not, we'll never know as the people involved, the only ones who actually know, will be marinated in sheep poop before they confirm it.

Is it plausible? Of course. Plausible deniability? Don't leave home without it!
:iagree: Yeah, that obviously liberal rant pretty well illustrates my issue with snopes. They don't do anything to actually disprove the theory but declare it busted anyway. All while talking about how well Hitlery did in the debate. I'm not saying I think she wore an earpiece or used hand signals or whatever else to cheat. I haven't seen compelling evidence that she did. However, I haven't seen anything to convince me she definitely didn't. It's not like you're going to make a case for cheating going against her character or anything. I mean, seriously, we're talking about Clinton here. :reddevil
by LucasMcCain
Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:20 pm
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Topic: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1
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Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

dale blanker wrote:
Lynyrd wrote:
You might want to check into Snopes before you swallow everything they have to say.
I've always been impressed with their thoroughness and objectivity. They provide evidence for their conclusions, not just opinion.

I like Wikipedia, too:
"Critics have accused Snopes of having a liberal bias.Jan Harold Brunvand, a folklorist who has written a number of books on urban legends and modern folklore, considered the site so comprehensive in 2004 as to obviate launching one of his own. David Mikkelson, the creator of the site, has said that the site receives more complaints of liberal bias than conservative bias, but insists that the same debunking standards are applied to all political urban legends. FactCheck reviewed a sample of Snopes' responses to political rumors regarding George W. Bush, Sarah Palin, and Barack Obama, and found them to be free from bias in all cases. FactCheck noted that Barbara Mikkelson was a Canadian citizen (and thus unable to vote in US elections) and David Mikkelson was an independent who was once registered as a Republican. "You'd be hard-pressed to find two more apolitical people," David Mikkelson told them. In 2012, The Florida Times-Union reported that About.com's urban legends researcher found a "consistent effort to provide even-handed analyses" and that Snopes' cited sources and numerous reputable analyses of its content confirm its accuracy."
Yeah, you might not want to just take wikipedia's word on stuff either. It has it's uses, but it is by no means inerrant or unbiased. Most of what you quoted was from the founder of snopes himself. Even he says that he used to be registered as republican, and his wife is Canadian. Being from a country which is (correct me if I'm wrong here) much more liberal than this one does not make a person unbiased politically.

I have found snopes to be useful when they actually give you references for their opinion on a given urban legend. When they don't, their bias starts to show.
by LucasMcCain
Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:27 pm
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Topic: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1
Replies: 119
Views: 21367

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

Trump already has my vote, and nothing he has to say is worth having to listen to Hitlery. Any of y'all with stronger stomachs than me can give me the synopsis tomorrow.

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