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by Lynyrd
Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:59 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Work carry
Replies: 45
Views: 7385

Re: Work carry

aero10 wrote:It's a federal government issue.
PatrickMas20 wrote:Wish I could, I work at a Government site. Hopefully the armed security and SWAT team have been hitting the range!
:iagree:

My concern is not at work, it's driving back and forth.
I'm sorry. That's really bad that federal regulations have the effect of keeping you disarmed while going back and forth to work.
by Lynyrd
Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:09 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Work carry
Replies: 45
Views: 7385

Re: Work carry

aero10 wrote:Unfortunately for me, no carrying at work (or between work and home). All weapons are banned both in the building and in the parking lots due to multiple levels of bureaucracy. :banghead: Gotta love it.

At least I'm allowed to carry my pocket knife. :woohoo
Just out of curiosity, do you drive a company owned vehicle to work? If you drive your own vehicle they can't keep you from having a gun locked up inside the vehicle, even on their parking lot.
Sec. 52.061. RESTRICTION ON PROHIBITING EMPLOYEE ACCESS TO OR STORAGE OF FIREARM OR AMMUNITION. A public or private employer may not prohibit an employee who holds a license to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, or who lawfully possesses ammunition from transporting or storing a firearm or ammunition the employee is authorized by law to possess in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle in a parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area the employer provides for employees.
Of course, maybe you work on federal property. That would be different.
by Lynyrd
Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:02 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Work carry
Replies: 45
Views: 7385

Re: Work carry

pushpullpete wrote:
Lynyrd wrote: It's a long story, much to long to be told here on this forum. As a brief summary, I report directly to one of the owners. Over the course of a couple of years (when I had the opportunity) I talked to him about handguns and the signs on our buildings. He knew that I carried, but didn't want them in his place of business. After learning a lot about his objections and why he had the signs up, I posed the possibility of letting employees carry but keep up the signs. I knew the signs were not going to come down, so this was the only approach that had a chance.

I pointed out that just walking back and forth to the parking lots unarmed, especially before daylight and after dark, put me unnecessarily at risk given I was a CHL holder. I also used the DPS statistics on CHL/LTC crime rates. He began to listen, and I didn't push. The discussions eventually turned to the company's potential liability if an employee ever fired a weapon on company property. He agreed to consult with his attorney on the matter and took me along.

It took almost two years of gentle persuasion, and calm reasoning, but we can carry now.
Job very well done with a healthy dose of patience. :tiphat: :tiphat:
You are a credit to the community.
:txflag: :patriot:
I am not a credit to anything. But thanks. :tiphat: I am analytical, logical, cautious, and persistent. Sometimes that pays dividends.
by Lynyrd
Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:09 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Work carry
Replies: 45
Views: 7385

Re: Work carry

mloamiller wrote:
Lynyrd wrote:I CC at work. We have 30.06/30.07 signs on all entrances, but last year I managed to get an amendment written into our company policy that allows CC only by employees. We have to request permission from senior management, provide a copy of our license, and keep it strictly confidential. No one knows who is carrying. The privilege can be revoked at any time.

And yes, I keep a copy of the signed permission form in my desk, and in my truck.
Would you share how you went about getting that amendment?
It's a long story, much to long to be told here on this forum. As a brief summary, I report directly to one of the owners. Over the course of a couple of years (when I had the opportunity) I talked to him about handguns and the signs on our buildings. He knew that I carried, but didn't want them in his place of business. After learning a lot about his objections and why he had the signs up, I posed the possibility of letting employees carry but keep up the signs. I knew the signs were not going to come down, so this was the only approach that had a chance.

I pointed out that just walking back and forth to the parking lots unarmed, especially before daylight and after dark, put me unnecessarily at risk given I was a CHL holder. I also used the DPS statistics on CHL/LTC crime rates. He began to listen, and I didn't push. The discussions eventually turned to the company's potential liability if an employee ever fired a weapon on company property. He agreed to consult with his attorney on the matter and took me along.

It took almost two years of gentle persuasion, and calm reasoning, but we can carry now.
by Lynyrd
Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:12 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Work carry
Replies: 45
Views: 7385

Re: Work carry

I CC at work. We have 30.06/30.07 signs on all entrances, but last year I managed to get an amendment written into our company policy that allows CC only by employees. We have to request permission from senior management, provide a copy of our license, and keep it strictly confidential. No one knows who is carrying. The privilege can be revoked at any time.

And yes, I keep a copy of the signed permission form in my desk, and in my truck.

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