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by nimravus01
Fri May 06, 2016 3:38 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Replies: 24
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Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs

txyaloo wrote: Is it a jail or do they simply have holding cells? Having holding cells doesn't mean the facility is a jail.
Here's the layout for the Killeen PD headquarters: it's a rather large building. To the right is the entrance to the main lobby of the station. To the far left is the entrance to the lobby of the jail. The jail side is where you go to visit someone or to post bail. They only hold people at this jail for short periods of time until they are trasported to Bell County jail. The lobby to the jail is open to the public. Beyond the lobby are all secured doors. There is a thick safetyglass window where you speak to the jailers. If you are there to see a defendant, you go into one of the rooms to the left of the window where there is another thick safetyglass barrier and you speak through a phone. After bail is posted, the defendant is released out into the lobby.

Like I said before, both entrances are posted with 30.06 and 30.07 signs.

I'm fairly certain the main PD lobby should not be posted at all.

I'm less certain about the jail side. Should it be posted? Or, is it statutoraly off limits by falling under the "correctional facility" exception under 46.035?

Are there any other sections of the law that specifically states that police stations or municipal jails are off limits?

These questions also apply to the Bell County jail which is part of the Bell County Justice Complex mentioned in the OP.
by nimravus01
Thu May 05, 2016 11:01 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Replies: 24
Views: 4518

Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs

The big Killeen PD hq also has signs in their doors. Now, there are two SEPARATE sections of this place: the hq and the jail. If I understand correctly, an LTC holder should be able to enter the unrestricted portion of the police station, so the signs on the hq are invalid. Right? How about the jail part, which is completely separate? The lobby to the jail is open to the general public, but, does it qualify as a "correctional facility" and therefor the entire premesis is off limits to LTC?
by nimravus01
Wed May 04, 2016 1:09 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Replies: 24
Views: 4518

Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs

Very interesting. I was just in there the other day. In the lobby, there is a snack/coffee bar. You must go through the metal detector and run your bag through an x-ray machine, however, to get to it. I wonder if it could be argued that the coffee bar is essential to court function? Lol.

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