I've only been to the US Capitol a few times, but I honestly can't recall seeing any "No Trespassing" signs. I remember getting irritated when some guys in suits (undercover LEO's of some type) told me to get off the steps of the Senate building. I was mad specifically because there was no signage that I could see anywhere in that area, and they were pretty rude about it.
So the question is how do you convict someone for trespassing if they walked through an open door (like the majority of these folks did), and did not pass any signage or any security telling them that they could not go into a building? Especially when it is widely known that parts of alot of government buildings in DC are open to the public.
This may be why there is a rush to settle these cases for a slap on the wrist.
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- Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:27 pm
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Let's put aside for a minute the fact that "insurrections" are not always a bad thing. No less a source than the US Declaration of Independence clearly states that insurrections are the right of the people whenever they feel that their government is no longer protecting their interests. That document, of course, just restates the same principles that were so eloquently explained by Thomas Locke.Paladin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:12 amMSNBC has been offering 24-7 brainwashing on the subject...Rafe wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:51 am I keep trying. I'm stubborn...but maybe I'm just stupid, too.
Had a post-freeze phone conversation with a left-leaning friend yesterday, and he and I had long ago agreed that we simply can't talk politics. But somehow somewhere the phrase "armed insurrection" at the capitol on January 6 got dropped into the conversation. I said that 4 handguns and one "prohibited weapon" (that presumably being the ridiculous "QAnon Shaman" who had an American flag tied to a spear) were recovered from the people who breached the capitol building. That 4 handguns not only don't constitute an armed insurrection in anybody's imagination, but that in most states that would more accurately just be "the middle left-hand shelf of the gun safe."
He said I was nuts and asked me if I hadn't seen all the news stories showing rioters waving guns around as they breached the capitol. I told him to send me links to some of those news videos. Haven't heard back from him.
Sigh. But this is what we face. Perception, impressions, and assumptions among the honest, and agenda-driven malfeasance among the...less honest. You can't argue that with facts. In his mind, he very clearly remembers scores of men carrying "assault rifles" as they broke into the capital building, holding Capitol Police officers at gunpoint. He remembers it like he was there to witness it himself.
And when I asked him if he also remembers "protestors" carrying AK-47s at several BLM "protests" last spring and summer and CHAZ "warlord" Raz Simone handing out guns to minors in Seattle after the Capitol Hill district was declared a sovereign country independent U.S. law...and, no; he didn't remember any of that.
-Zbigniew Brzezinski (BETWEEN TWO AGES)Persisting social crisis, the emergence of a charismatic personality, and the exploitation of mass media to obtain public confidence would be the steppingstones in the piecemeal transformation of the United States into a highly controlled society.
This was not an "armed insurrection". The rioters were clearly trying to delay the vote count because they felt that more investigation was needed of what were, frankly, incredulous election results showing that Biden was exponentially more popular than any Presidential candidate, pretty much ever, despite drawing smaller crowds to his rallies than the attendance at an average middle school sporting event.
But these folks were not trying to overthrow the government and replace it with another. They also were not declaring independence and attempting to set up a separate country. We had REAL insurrection attempts this past year in Seattle and Portland. If the media wants to focus on insurrections being evil, they have several good examples, but the Capitol riot is NOT one of them.
- Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:20 am
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IMHO, SCOTUS set the stage here by refusing to hear the Texas lawsuit. SCOTUS is the only court that has jurisdiction on that matter and by refusing to decide it, they left an open question as to the validity of the election results and essentially announced that this dispute needed to be resolved outside of the legal system. That leaves much less desirable options, unfortunately.DEB wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:41 amI don't want to seem like I am spreading thoughts of any anti-government insurrection, because I am not. But what are the better ways you suggest? IMO, The vote no longer is a valid means to change. Texas and other like minded states attempted to go to the Courts, wasn't even entertained. Individuals attempted to go to the courts, again not even entertained. So, the way I see it, one either just gives up or ... what? I am one of those who now must eat any of the slop given to me, deviancy, murder, lies, cheating, the move to destroy the practice of my religion, and I firmly believe a soon to be attempt to fully disarm me and those who think as I. I don't know, kinda between a rock and a hard place. I know I have to live within this new world order, so I will do my best, while trying to maintain my Christian world view.