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Jason Todd wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:17 am

K.Mooneyham wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:31 am Wow, are you sure all you folks actually live in Texas? Some of those comments almost makes me want to move across the Red and live with them danged Okies!

I hear they let people keep and bear handguns without a license.

That's crazy. Next you'll tell me that they allow people to vote, and attend religious services without paying for a license or getting any type of training.

Beiruty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:47 pm The goverment cannot force you to destroy your own property without due compensation.

Actually the government can force you to do anything they want you to do. After all, the US government has more firepower than any of us.

The only real question is whether it is legal for the government to force you to do a particular thing, and whether you have any recourse to such government overreach. The ultimate recourse is to replace an oppressive government with a new one. As you well know, we have a mixed record in these parts on this matter. If we count all 3 major attempted revolutions in American history (Colonial revolt, Texas war for independence, Civil War), the people trying to overthrow what they viewed as an oppressive government are 2 for 3.

Grumpy1993 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:31 am

Beiruty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:47 pm The goverment cannot force you to destroy your own property without due compensation.

Are you volunteering to be the test case?

Nothing personal intended here, but I just want to point out my disdain for the "fear the test case" mantra that I see repeatedly espoused on this forum. In the context of your statement, it can almost be taken as a veiled threat. "Don't do this unless you want to be the test case".

The danger here is that if we have absolute fear of wrongful arrest (aka being the "test case"), then we grant the government absolute and complete authority to do anything that those in power choose to do. We must all make a personal decision about where we draw the line on this, and if we are to be citizens instead of mere subjects, then we must be willing to take the risk of being the "test case" on some issues. As another poster here likes to say, its all about the risks we personally choose to take.

The only way to have absolute certainty that you will never be a "test case", is to be dead. If you are living, then you are at some risk of being arrested for lawful behavior. So everyone living DOES actively choose to run the risk of "being the test case" when they walk out their door in the morning, drive to work, and do a whole host of other everyday, law abiding activities, whether they choose to acknowledge that decision or not. It really just comes down to a decision about which issues are worthy of running the "test case" risk, and which are not. That is a decision we must all make for ourselves.