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Abraham wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:57 pm Make it .410 and I'll be interested, but not even a 20 gauge will be manageable (with that design) by me.

You might be surprised. This design is much more manageable than it looks. Of course, we are all different, etc., etc. But for me, the shockwave grip is MUCH easier to handle than a pistol grip, for example. There is also an adaptor available to fire mini-shells through it if you otherwise are a fan of this gun.