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by Soccerdad1995
Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:17 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: City ordnance
Replies: 16
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Re: City ordnance

imkopaka wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
SewTexas wrote:I typically have some difficulty reading these things, but I can usually figure them out....this one seems overly, I don't know, messy?

7. sort of seems like it's saying: "LTCs, follow the law." maybe?

c. looks like it's saying: "it's the City Manager's job to post the signs, if you have a complaint, call him."
They may not actually conflict with one another, but it's still a problem.

7 is saying that LTC's are exempt from the ordinance regarding firearms. C is saying that the City Manager is supposed to post signage saying firearms aren't allowed. These do not necessarily conflict, but C is instructing the City Manager to violate state law, which is a problem. Until the City Manager actually posts signs, then I don't think a violation has occurred, however.

Also, as mentioned up-thread, this ordinance conflicts with state law regarding the unlicensed carry of long guns.

I might agree if (c) didn't say "whether by a licensee or not, is prohibited".

There's the rub.
Understood. And it may just be semantics, but I am not reading (c) to be a statement of law / ordinance. Rather, I read (c) to require the posting of signs, and the signs that the ordinance requires erroneously state that carry by a license holder is not allowed. Regardless, the very order in (c) is directing the City Manager to do something that is illegal (violation of the fines for signs law), so I think the city has bigger issues on it's hands here.
by Soccerdad1995
Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:42 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: City ordnance
Replies: 16
Views: 3814

Re: City ordnance

SewTexas wrote:I typically have some difficulty reading these things, but I can usually figure them out....this one seems overly, I don't know, messy?

7. sort of seems like it's saying: "LTCs, follow the law." maybe?

c. looks like it's saying: "it's the City Manager's job to post the signs, if you have a complaint, call him."
They may not actually conflict with one another, but it's still a problem.

7 is saying that LTC's are exempt from the ordinance regarding firearms. C is saying that the City Manager is supposed to post signage saying firearms aren't allowed. These do not necessarily conflict, but C is instructing the City Manager to violate state law, which is a problem. Until the City Manager actually posts signs, then I don't think a violation has occurred, however.

Also, as mentioned up-thread, this ordinance conflicts with state law regarding the unlicensed carry of long guns.

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