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by Soccerdad1995
Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:11 pm
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Topic: Self driving vehicles creep me out. How will feds mandate purchases?
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Re: Self driving vehicles creep me out. How will feds mandate purchases?

JustSomeOldGuy wrote:
OneGun wrote:So, who goes on trial for vehicular manslaughter? Can the self-driving car be tried as an adult human?
probably a 'defective product' and/or 'wrongful death' lawsuit. No criminal culpability because no one is 'in charge'.
If there was a human in the vehicle who could have prevented the accident, but failed to do so, then that human could be negligent. Otherwise, it is probably the same as the case with a Ford (?) model where the company knew that a potentially deadly defect existed and could be repaired, but decided that it was cheaper to pay a few settlements than to issue a recall. If I recall correctly that didn't end well for the company, but I also don't think that anyone was criminally charged.

This all assumes that the pedestrian wasn't solely at fault by doing something stupid like jumping in front of the car, etc. Even if that is the case, I would expect a quick settlement in this case.
by Soccerdad1995
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:47 pm
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Topic: Self driving vehicles creep me out. How will feds mandate purchases?
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Re: Self driving vehicles creep me out. How will feds mandate purchases?

Vol Texan wrote:I don't currently embrace this technology, but I could see a situation where it could be (slowly) implemented safely. Here in Houston, I live out on the west side of town. Right down the middle of I-10, we have the four managed lanes of traffic. If you enter those, you'll either be paying a toll or you'll qualify as an HOV, negating the tolls.

Every couple of miles, there is a toll booth. Left lane is free (HOV) and right lane is pay (non-HOV toll road). However, the idiots that are HOV believe that since they will need to pass the toll booth in the left lane several miles from now, they should stay in that lane the whole time. Idiots, indeed, and they impede traffic flow.

I could imagine (and actually agree with) a situation where one day they decide that these managed lanes are for self-driving cars only. No entry for 'normal cars', and once you enter this part of the road, it must be auto-driving. Once you depart the managed lanes, you are free to return to commanding your own vehicle.

In that limited situation, I'd probably like riding in that lane. Fewer left-lane hoggers (my biggest peeve on the road), and a smoother flow of traffic. If they'd then continue that lane all the way into downtown Houston (or at least the option to stay in that lane), that would be great. The congestion in the limited area of downtown could also be eased if 100% of the cars were self-driving.

I guess that's where I draw the line. Self driving-only lanes or areas would be enough for me to try it out willingly.

Unfortunately, I doubt I'll be given the option, and eventually, it will be forced upon all of us, as the OP opined.

I guess that when they force-feed us, it'll be time to buy a motorcycle again. I doubt they can require them to be self-driving.
The smaller the space between each vehicle, the less congestion. If all vehicles were self driving, and the technology was perfected, then in theory, "self driving only" lanes could handle a much greater traffic flow, at higher speeds, than "human driver" lanes. This would improve the commutes of every driver, even if you are not using the technology / special lanes.

If the government really wanted to implement this, they could accelerate the adoption through a combination of higher speeds in the "self driving only" lanes, no tolls, and tax credits on the vehicle purchases. Southern California would probably be on the leading edge for a variety of reasons.
by Soccerdad1995
Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:43 am
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Topic: Self driving vehicles creep me out. How will feds mandate purchases?
Replies: 55
Views: 16873

Re: Self driving vehicles creep me out. How will feds mandate purchases?

This fancy new technology scares me. Give me my horse and buggy.

Seriously, though I agree with the sentiments above that the technology will continue to improve, and acceptance of it will continue to grow. After all, the other alternative (human drivers) isn't exactly setting a high bar, safety wise. Eventually, driverless vehicles will be the standard, and then the only option. That last step may not happen while we are still driving, though.

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