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by Soccerdad1995
Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:25 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Fed to seize guns from people who failed background checks
Replies: 31
Views: 8535

Re: Fed to seize guns from people who failed background checks

treadlightly wrote:If I have a stolen gun - very unlikely scenario - do I have the right to keep it from the lawful owner?
No you don't. A stolen gun should be returned to the lawful owner.

So in this case, I guess the gun gets returned to the seller, and the seller would then refund the (prohibited) buyers money. Simple solution. There is NO justification for the government to keep the firearm, though.
by Soccerdad1995
Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:56 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Fed to seize guns from people who failed background checks
Replies: 31
Views: 8535

Re: Fed to seize guns from people who failed background checks

MechAg94 wrote:
K.Mooneyham wrote:
Note that the ATF is quoted as saying they didn't pursue one buyer whose background check subsequently failed because they "lacked resources." Hog. Wash. They simply decided other things were more important.
Yeah, I agree, I'm sure they had other priorities. Things like "Fast and Furious" gun-walking and the botched "sting" operation in Milwaukee. How much money/resources were wasted during those debacles? How much other stuff just like those two that never came to light? How much money does the ATF waste instead of using it to take violent felons off the streets?
And how much would it take to simply notify the people affected that they bought those guns illegally and they need to turn them. Offer them buy-back compensation for the gun's value. They would probably get a higher percentage of the guns back that way and spend less overall. I guess they assume raids would uncover other illegal material.
But the problem is that, without raids, how are they supposed to show off all of their tacticool military surplus gear?
by Soccerdad1995
Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:52 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Fed to seize guns from people who failed background checks
Replies: 31
Views: 8535

Re: Fed to seize guns from people who failed background checks

ELB wrote:Someone is laying ground work to get the three-day approval turnaround requirement abolished.
:iagree:

That or a mandatory gun registration scheme. "When people do something that lands them on the prohibited list, we need to have a way to ensure that we have properly confiscated all firearms they may have previously acquired. After all, no rational, sane person would ever want these dangerous lunatics to have any guns."

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