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by Soccerdad1995
Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:15 pm
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: Man shot to death in road rage incident in Cinco Ranch
Replies: 10
Views: 4955

Re: Man shot to death in road rage incident in Cinco Ranch

Middle Age Russ wrote:Apparently, the SUV (Touring) driver exited his vehicle and began a verbal and then physical confrontation with the driver of the yellow (Honda S2000) convertible. This confrontation did not go well for him since the driver of the convertible ended up shooting him.

What is in the report leaves a number of questions... Was the convertible locked in traffic with no way out? Did the aggressor present a deadly threat to the driver of the convertible (one presumes so since it looks like the police aren't holding him and have simply referred the case to a grand jury)? What could the convertible driver have possibly done that precipitated the behavior of the aggressor?

One thing does seem clear to me, though. A convertible with the top/windows down doesn't present much of an impediment to someone who might try to physically assault you.
I'm picturing the situation where the aggressor is standing and punching the convertible driver in the head. The drivers head would be about chest high to the assailant, so perfect positioning for him to attack. On the other hand, the convertible driver would be in a terrible position to counter attack since he would have to turn sideways and also get up on the seat somehow. In a situation like that, I could definitely see the convertible driver being at risk of losing consciousness, which would then have given the attacker all the time he needed to finish him off. So yes, I think the convertible driver was likely facing a deadly threat, assuming he could not drive away.
by Soccerdad1995
Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:21 am
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: Man shot to death in road rage incident in Cinco Ranch
Replies: 10
Views: 4955

Re: Man shot to death in road rage incident in Cinco Ranch

Jusme wrote:The first guy should have never gotten out of his vehicle, but, the shooter, could have had the opportunity, to drive away, even if it meant running a red light. Instead, he became as combative as the first guy, and then only fired, after he began losing the physical confrontation. Even, if he was "trapped", in traffic, he could have stayed in his locked car, with the window up, and called 9-1-1. Then if the attacker tried to force his way in, or broke the window, in my opinion, he would have been more justified in shooting him. As it was, and I realize it is keyboard quarterbacking, based on a news story, that may, or may not be accurate, the shooter became a mutual combatant.

I have always wondered, why, if being cut off, slows you down so much that you will be late somewhere, how you have time to fight about it? JMHO
I'm not sure I would conclude that the shooter was a mutual combatant. Unless the cars were moved after the incident, the convertible was not first in line at the light, so he may have been boxed in. The top was also down and witnesses report that the aggressor was throwing punches at the victims head, so it may have been too late to roll up the windows. Unfortunately, the shooter may have left himself with no escape route.

This is one reason why I always try to leave sufficient room between me and the vehicle in front to escape onto the sidewalk if nothing else. Of course, I'm not sure if a corvette is high enough off the ground to get over that curb.
by Soccerdad1995
Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:28 am
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: Man shot to death in road rage incident in Cinco Ranch
Replies: 10
Views: 4955

Man shot to death in road rage incident in Cinco Ranch

This happened just down the road from my house in a pretty safe area. Apparently, a guy believed he was cut off, got upset and started to assault the other driver at the next red light. I'm assuming that the emotions from the hurricane played a part in this.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/mass ... ed-in-katy

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