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by Soccerdad1995
Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:27 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Visiting Texas Tech. Any Gotchas?
Replies: 15
Views: 3367

Re: Visiting Texas Tech. Any Gotchas?

C-dub wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
JustSomeOldGuy wrote:In case you missed this one, http://www.ttu.edu/campuscarry/document ... ochure.pdf has a more straightforward list of the exclusion zones than the document you referenced. Enjoy your visit!
I noticed this excerpt from the pamphlet you linked
Concealed Handgun- the presence of a handgun is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a reasonable
person.
Is this consistent with the legal definition of concealed? My concern is that the text I quoted seems to imply that "printing" is a problem.
This is consistent. It doesn't mention anything about printing per se. The discernible presence of an object is not a problem. That I can tell that there is something you are concealing is not the same as me being able to discern that the object is a handgun.

A friend of mine from many many years ago only covered his handgun by pulling his t-shirt over it. Prior to the day he did this with me when we were making a Whataburger run for a group I didn't know he had a CHL. We rode in his car and he put it in an IWB holster at about 5 o'clock right before getting out of the car. I noticed it back there walking in. It was so noticeable that I could tell it was either a Glock 19 or 23. He figured that he only needed to cover it and that it didn't matter if it was discernible as a handgun or not. Nothing happened on that trip and we parted ways a couple months later when he had to move for his job.
I think this is the crux of my concern. Back when OC was not allowed anywhere, I could CC in a skin tight leotard carrying my 1911 in my back pocket, such that anyone could clearly "discern" that it was a gun. And that would not have been a problem (legally) as long as I could CC in that location. The use of the word "discern" in this policy seems to imply that they are going to have a problem if someone is carrying in a similar manner. I think it would be much better if they used the word "visible" versus "discern".
by Soccerdad1995
Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:54 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Visiting Texas Tech. Any Gotchas?
Replies: 15
Views: 3367

Re: Visiting Texas Tech. Any Gotchas?

JustSomeOldGuy wrote:In case you missed this one, http://www.ttu.edu/campuscarry/document ... ochure.pdf has a more straightforward list of the exclusion zones than the document you referenced. Enjoy your visit!
I noticed this excerpt from the pamphlet you linked
Concealed Handgun- the presence of a handgun is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a reasonable
person.
Is this consistent with the legal definition of concealed? My concern is that the text I quoted seems to imply that "printing" is a problem.

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