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by Soccerdad1995
Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:09 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Question on 30.06 posting
Replies: 34
Views: 5645

Re: Question on 30.06 posting

TexasTornado wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:Is it possible to check holster fit on a weapon that is zip tied?
No but those selling holsters will usually cut the tie at their stand then re-zip tie before you move on (I've purchased 4 holsters at 4 different shows, this has been the consistent method on each occasion.
That makes sense. I've obviously never bought a holster at a gun show.
by Soccerdad1995
Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Question on 30.06 posting
Replies: 34
Views: 5645

Re: Question on 30.06 posting

Is it possible to check holster fit on a weapon that is zip tied?
by Soccerdad1995
Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:39 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Question on 30.06 posting
Replies: 34
Views: 5645

Re: Question on 30.06 posting

AJSully421 wrote:Here is where it gets really tricky... Texas law makes zero distinction between a loaded firearm and an unloaded one. So, the venue has no legal authority to make you unload your pistol on those premises. Everyone who is carrying around a pistol in a case is concealing a handgun... Some with a license and some without. Is there a problem with you concealing an unloaded handgun? No...

It gets better, the promoter does have the ability to refuse entry to you, and they can revoke your entry for any reason. However, if you refuse to leave... What section of the penal code would be used to remove you? In 99% of cases, PC 30.05 Trespassing is what will be used. However, 30.05 has a specific provision 30.05(f) that says that it cannot be used if someone has a license and is carrying a handgun, again... Load or unloaded does not matter.

So, the promoter calls over the FWPD officers who monitor the gun show... And the promoter says "he has a loaded pistol in here and I want him removed"... Well, they cannot remove or arrest you under 30.05 because the reason for your trespass is that you have a license and a handgun, they cannot use 30.06 (even if posted) because it is on city-owned premises... You are not threatening anyone, you are not being abusive or cussing...

So, what are they going to do? They can't legally do a thing to you. They cannot even CT you from future shows because of the same restriction in 30.05(f).

Seems like fun to me.
Couldn't they just ask you to leave without giving a reason? I thought that any business owner could tell anyone to leave for no reason at all, and if that person refuses to leave they would be guilty of trespass.
by Soccerdad1995
Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:06 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Question on 30.06 posting
Replies: 34
Views: 5645

Re: Question on 30.06 posting

bblhd672 wrote:I was at Ft. Worth gun show this weekend as well. Wasn't happy about having to walk back to my car and leave my ammo there after the police officer zip tied my pistol.

Really annoying that Premiere Gun Shows says on their website that your gun is welcome, but not tell you that you cannot open or concealed carry there.

I enjoyed walking the floor but not sure that I will go to a Premiere show again if they don't publicly clarify their position on carrying inside the show.
Why would you allow them to zip tie your gun, and also walk back to your car with ammo? Were you uncertain of your legal ability to carry at that location or did they force the issue through the use of metal detectors, etc?
by Soccerdad1995
Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:21 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Question on 30.06 posting
Replies: 34
Views: 5645

Re: Question on 30.06 posting

These signs have the same impact as me posting a sign at my front door that says "Pursuant to Texas penal code 12.12 liberal thought is banned on these premises. Any liberal who enters these premises is guilty of a felony and will be hanged by the neck until dead."

In other words, the Ft Worth gun show signage is stupid, ignorant and pointless, along with dispensing legal advice that the sign poster should know to be inaccurate. According to the Texas AG, there is nothing wrong with doing this. But the sign is also not enforceable. Carry away and be safe.

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