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twomillenium wrote:

Soccerdad1995 wrote:

twomillenium wrote:I find the story hard to believe, since Walmart is famously recognized to accept legal handgun carry in their stores. The fact that the store manager was not called to double check policy makes it even harder to believe. Rant and rave all you want, but to me this is a report of hearsay, and you know how often that is misinterpreted. I am not calling anyone a liar but this one side of the story and there is a good chance that it is not the whole of the true story. If I am wrong then I apologize.

I'm not sure why you find it hard to believe that a Wal-Mart security guard could be grossly incompetent in a variety of ways, including a complete and total misunderstanding of company policy. I mean, we are talking about someone who presumably could not get a job in law enforcement, and then also could not get a security guard job at a number of other, preferable employers. For this reason alone, I do not find this story hard to believe.

LOL I guess I find it hard to believe for the same reason you think a Walmart security guard (or was it a greeter) can't get a better job. I appreciate anyone who does honest work, even if it is picking up cans.

Like I said when I look at history and realize this is second hand hearsay, I will need both sides of the story or non-story. (I try to do as little business with Walmart when given a choice).

I may be reading too much between the lines of your post, but I want to make it clear that I absolutely appreciate anyone who does honest work. If someone is doing a job, then I naturally assume that they cannot get a better job, because any sane, rational, person would choose the best job they could get. That in no way means that I do not appreciate the job that someone is currently doing. And yes, I know that there sometimes are external factors such as physical or schedule limitations that make it impossible to take what would otherwise be considered a "better" job.

All that said, based on my personal experience I do not find it hard to believe that a Wal-Mart employee made a mistake in this case. I have seen that happen to one degree or another on a substantial percentage of my Wal-Mart visits.

twomillenium wrote:I find the story hard to believe, since Walmart is famously recognized to accept legal handgun carry in their stores. The fact that the store manager was not called to double check policy makes it even harder to believe. Rant and rave all you want, but to me this is a report of hearsay, and you know how often that is misinterpreted. I am not calling anyone a liar but this one side of the story and there is a good chance that it is not the whole of the true story. If I am wrong then I apologize.

I'm not sure why you find it hard to believe that a Wal-Mart security guard could be grossly incompetent in a variety of ways, including a complete and total misunderstanding of company policy. I mean, we are talking about someone who presumably could not get a job in law enforcement, and then also could not get a security guard job at a number of other, preferable employers. For this reason alone, I do not find this story hard to believe.

JALLEN wrote:Perhaps you are misunderstanding what I read, but if you walk into a store, a greeter says "you can't carry a gun here", and you aren't carrying a gun, you just say thanks and keep on going about your business, no crime, no ride, no muss, no fuss.

The law only speaks to handguns, not rifles, knives, hand grenades, IEDs, water filled balloons or anything else.

Correct, in the OP's example his son could have just gone about his business since he didn't have a gun. He didn't even need to acknowledge the security guard's statement at all.

But the son has now received effective notice that all carry (CC and OC) is not allowed, and cannot carry there in the future, setting aside for the moment that the son is not old enough to have a LTC regardless of anything else.

And I would also note that several companies (most notably Whataburger) are taking the "no signs, but give effective notice" route at least as it regards to OC. If you get such notice, don't stand there arguing that they can't do it since there are no signs, because they can do it, and your failure to leave could well be seen as trespassing at that point.

RevDLo wrote:My 17yo son carries a Buck 110 in a leather pouch on the back of his belt.(I was not with him) He walked into Walmart and the security guard stops him saying "Hey you cant carry a gun in here!" My son being the big boy he is(he's huge) asks what the heck he is talking about LOL!! Proceeds to show him its just a pocket knife and goes about his business. My question, being my 1st week of licensed carry, is how does this guard have any business telling any one they cant carry a firearm? From what Ive seen, Walmart only has "unlawful unless licensed" signage.

The Wal-Mart employee can give anyone effective notice that they cannot carry, regardless of signage. It sounds like this is what happened, so unfortunately your son can no longer legally carry in that Wal-Mart.

This is against Wal-Mart policy, however, so it probably makes sense to complain to the store manager and / or corporate. They can in turn give your son effective notice that he CAN carry, which will trump the security guard's notice of the opposite. That may also lead to some re-training for the security guard.