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Jago668 wrote:The accuracy one on this just makes me laugh. For a top level guy in a competition sure. Pulling it on the street saving your life, you will never see the difference. Even at the range a vast majority of shooters won't even get a Glock to its full potential, much less a 1911. Gets even more silly when people start comparing a $3,000 1911 to a $550 Glock. Like comparing a Formula 1 race car to a Toyota Camry; even there most people can't get the most out of their Camry.

Buy what you want, carry what you want. I'm going to drive a workhorse car, and carry a workhorse gun. And enjoy shooting ya'lls thoroughbred 1911s when we have range days. One thing is for sure. Nobody is going to be standing in line to shoot a Glock at a range day. Just like nobody is going to ooh and aah over a generic Camry.

It might make you laugh, but it is real, at least for me.

I am noticeably more accurate with my Magnum Research full size 1911 (I paid $650) than I am with my Glock 21 at 7 yards. Can I hit the torso of a human size target with both guns at that distance? Yes (of course). Can I hit a specific area of the target, reliably, under stress, with both guns? Most likely, but more likely with the 1911 than with the Glock. These are home defense guns. And it is entirely possible that I will be trying to hit a moving target, that is possibly obscured by a column or corner, in low light. I don't think the accuracy difference is anything to laugh at for me, personally.

I am also noticeably more accurate with my Colt Defender than I am with my similarly sized Glock 26. We are talking about a roughly $250 price difference on those guns.

Abraham wrote:I love Martini-Henry 45-70 rifles, but were I to be in a gun battle, I'd want my Colt LE6920 with plenty of loaded with 5.56 rounds in Magpul magazines.

Yes, old time rifles and pistols are beautiful museum pieces...they're still lethal, but dated in their technology, very dated.

Stearman Biplanes are things of beauty, museum quality beauty, much like the 1911...but if I'm going to travel by air, it won't be in a Stearman and I sure won't be trusting my life to a persnickety 1911, a usually under capacity old time pistol.

But hey, if you care to carry a cap and ball era revolver for your EDC, more power to you. (pssst, you gonna need it)

The interesting thing here is that the "dated" technology is much more accurate than the "latest" technology. Considering that the whole point of the thing is to put a bullet into a specific place, this may well be a situation where newer is not better.

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C-dub wrote:I've always found it curious and wondered why some 1911 folks are always comparing their 1911's to Glocks or trying to convince others that they are better than Glocks, but Glock folks don't do the same. Is it envy, jealousy, or something else?

I always wondered why it's always Glocks vs 1911s .. There is a whole lot of guns that aren't either.. and a whole lot of SA/DAs that don't work anything like either.

I think it has to do with Glocks being the most popular non-1911. You could make a more general comparison of 1911's versus Polymer pistols in general with pretty similar results.

Also, a comparison of an Ed Brown Executive Carry (in stainless finish) versus a Ruger SP101 (with 3 inch barrel) would not interest nearly as many people.

I started with Glocks, and currently own 4 Glocks, 1 Kahr, 1 Kel-Tec, 2 S&W revolvers, and 3 1911's.

The top 5 guns on my wish list are all 1911's. Yes, the 1911 is prettier than a Glock, as long as the maker doesn't use the slide as an advertising billboard, but the main thing for me is accuracy. My Officers model 1911 is much more accurate than my Kahr PM9 or my Glock 26. And my full size 1911's are much more accurate than my Glock 21.

Also, maybe I have just been lucky, but I have never had reliability issues with any 1911. Then again, I do tend to spend a lot more for my 1911's than I do for my Glocks so that may be a part of it. The only gun that has ever had significant reliability issues (1%+ failure rate) was a Taurus PT 24/7 that is currently waiting to be sent back for recall. I would never carry any gun that was not near 100% reliability for me, after break-in.

Personally, here is how I would compare a Glock vs it's comparably sized 1911 counterpart in the areas that matter to me:

Reliability = Even (as noted, I personally have not had any issues with either)
Accuracy = 1911
Capacity = Glock (but this has to be balanced against the increased accuracy of the 1911)
Concealability = 1911
Appearance = 1911
Value for a limited budget = Glock*

For me, personally, this translates to the 1911 as my preferred platform. But I am also planning to hold on to my Glocks and continue to play around with those as well.