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Ruark wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:12 pm They also want 4 personal character references. The list goes on.

4 character references but getting rid of "may issue"? How does that work exactly? Do you just need 4 people to attest to the fact that you are not a felon and can legally possess a firearm (the same thing that a background check would show)?

Ruark wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:32 pm Cripes. They can make it almost impossible to get a CC permit. That 15 hours of "in person instruction" can have all kinds of stipulations, e.g. huge fees, offered twice a year in 1 or 2 locations, requiring impossible test scores, etc. etc. as if anybody can take 2 full days off to attend the classes, which will inevitable be offered only on work days.

No guns on subways? The place in NY were you would MOST want to carry.

Background checks to buy ammo? Are they talking about NICs, or some ponderous state-created system? I presume you could just go out of state and buy a couple of cases of ammo and haul it home.

And the crack in this country grows wider......................

If these "woke" companies that are paying travel expenses for abortions really cared about constitutional rights, then they would also pay travel expenses for people who go out of New York state to buy ammo. But I doubt that's going to happen.

So they basically want to restrict carry as much as possible now that the "unwashed masses" will be able to legally carry guns. The parallels to gun control laws that originated as soon as slaves were freed are obvious here. Democrats really never do change their stripes.

From a practical perspective I'm not sure these restrictions are all that impactful. New Yorkers will still be able to carry at home, in their cars, etc. I know most people in NYC don't drive cars, but short of mandating that employers allow guns in the workplace, these folks wouldn't be able to carry to work regardless. And I'm guessing those New Yorkers who don't live in NYC do drive their own cars to work.

If I think about my personal experience, I spend at most 5% of my time in places that would be covered by the restrictions she is planning.