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03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:35 pm

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:17 pm Seems to me after the incident it was reported that AK Guy was approaching carrying it at low ready while voicing threats!

This is the way I understood the situation as well.

OK, so for argument's sake, let's assume the above is established in court.

That means, we have a masked person, holding a rifle, while committing a crime (blocking traffic). That individual then advances on a motorist who is blocked in, and yells threats at the motorist.

If I'm on the jury, I'm ruling that a good shoot. IMHO, that would also be a justified use of force if the motorist was a LEO (who I would obviously hold to a higher standard than a non-LEO citizen). The thing to remember here is that it takes less than a second to fire a controlled round from a rifle held at that position. I'm sure the defense attorney will demonstrate this for the jury.

jerry_r60 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:44 pm It seems everything hinges on if the guy with the AK raised it up and pointed it or was just carrying it slung.

If the perp raised the AK, then it is a clear cut good shoot. Assuming that's the case, the guy was trapped by protestors that he didn't want to run over, and a masked person pointed an AK at him. I think everyone, including a LEO, would try to defend themselves in that situation.

On the other hand, if the prosecution can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the perp did not raise his AK, and in fact did not even have his hands on the rifle, then they might warrant a conviction, but that would depend on exactly how the aggressor approached the stopped vehicle, what he said, etc.

It did strike me that it took a 3 week grand jury trial to secure an indictment here. Is that how long a grand jury normally takes?