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The M16 never made him stumble a magazine full, Capt Nance sure put him down finally.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

warpdrive wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:But for someone who has just a few acres, say 10 or so, an M1 carbine is still an ideal gun. You don't have to worry as much about terminal ballistics outside of your property lines, and the gun is light and handy enough to walk around with it, without feeling like you're hauling around a big chunk of rifle. And the cartridge is certainly up to anything you're going to have to deal with inside the confined spaces of a small property and its outbuildings.

Have you ever seen a bull jump a fence?

No, but I've been chased out of a pen by a Santa Gertrudis bull. I was inside the pipe stall, and then I was outside of it. I don't believe that I touched metal with any part of my body, and the bull never harmed a hair on my head. Near as I can tell, I instantly beamed myself from one spot to the other. On that day, that was my superpower.

You're right, a .30 carbine is insufficient medicine for a bull that jumped the fence. But in that case, an AR15 probably isn't enough, and a .30-30 or AK might not be enough either. I once hunted a friend's lease, and hiked my way to the blind while it was still dark out. The neighbor ranch's nilgai water buffalos had a habit of knocking down the fence and wandering onto the lease. I was carrying a .308, and my friend told me before I departed to climb a tree if I ran across any nilgai and had any trouble, because the .308 wasn't going to be enough rifle.

So, what are you going to carry for a truck gun then......a Barret .50?

I just saw this and will share on it, I have actually encountered a water buffalo and had a M16 with a 20 round magazine for sure 20 did not do much but get his attention, however 70-80 rounds from an M60 did the trick very well.

I had a friend LE that got to bring a G18 to the range and we all shot it, right on shooting it with 2 hand grip normally, it was fun but useless to me.

Mt marlin lever 22 rf gets a lot of ATV use I traded a leather recliner for it years back, great rifle

WTR same here, then usually grab the regular ones, lately my 2-1/2" S&W66 has been wanting to get out some, I guess it needs an outing or 2 soon. The only firearm I even owned with my name engraved on it, a gift from officers. When I got it they were almost impossible for non LE to get.
My rifle remained silent today. Tomorrow is another day.

Getting ready to head out for the pm cow check and check gates, S&W 45 Shield , flashlight 1200 lumens, Marlin 22 mag due to light rain. It usually is so peaceful at night doing this, me and my German Shepherd Mica.

Outside of my 788 I really liked the M1 carbine other than the brass ejection in the cab and rather have the bolt action and magazine of the 788's so easy to unload. I did carry my Rock river or Colt AR for awhile and they did great but always go back to the old 788. My cousin in west Texas carries a $69 SKS which has been cleaned 1 time in many years and suits him well, when we both bought them ammo could be bought for .03 a round and we got a lifetime supply each.
Use what ever you feel right to do so.

When I moved back here I wanted a 22 mag but my criteria was this:
Bolt action
magazine fed not tubular
synthetic stock as I would be too careful with wood, I do like wood better
scoped and iron sights also with scope removed and bases intact
Weaver mounts, easy on and off
Leupold Vari X 3 2.5 x 8 duplex
Look at it as a tool only
It is perfect and still have it. A synthethic stock Marlin was what I got, perfect for me.]I will be going out today feeding cows here and todays armament probably be the 788 -243 and my new S&W Shield in 45 acp, the 45 will get shot at something to wear the new off it.

We really have to watch the 30 cal due to power and around livestock and neighbors, my 243 788 is usually loaded with 70 gr Speer TnT's which work great for about everything, same for 6mm, my 7-08 rarely goes except in deer season, when I got the 788 in 7-08 the seller told me "If you look at it 1st you will not buy it" so shoot it a week or so 1st then pay me, 1st 3 shots in 1 hole ! at 100 yds, it is unreal accurate and looks like it has been in 2 wars, no finish left anywhere. the negative to the 788's are finding magazines easily affordable, glad I have them, I remember when some 30-30 & 44 mag magazines were almost as expensive as the rifles, the 6mm would be next on hard to find easy affordable.

Just wondering what some others use, I live rural and out with livestock daily.
I never know if it is going to be shot today once one several times,
My #1 choice is a Remington 788, I have several 243=6mm=7/08 all scoped, I have carried AR's, M1 carbines and Marlin 22 lever action 39A or 22 mag bolt action.

A big factor and 1 reason for the 788's is the magazine removal for easy unloading, for me a must have especially when coming in the house, tube fed are not good, also instant loading if coyotes are seen out the windows, I have shot more from my patio table than hunting them.

30 carbine or 556 brass is a nightmare sometimes to get out of truck defroster vents, 22 rf just disappears. Again another reason my love for the 788's. They fit my need almost perfect. rarely do I ever see another or hear them mentioned. At $79 to $89 they could not be beat! My 6mm box still has the Gibson's Disc tag on it.
I know of 1 other person who daily carries a 788 either in 222=556=22/250, I have never seen anyone carry a 44mag or 30-30 788 in years.