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Tell him to buy new food.jimlongley wrote:Just yesterday, since this thread started, I had a customer who wants to replace the LED lighting inside his new refrigerator with incandescent because he wants his food to look the same way it used to with his old fridge.
I bought some 100W[72W] halogen bulbs the other day. I just checked the packaging and on the back and in the box of "Lighting Facts" is says the Light Appearance is "warm" 3000K.jimlongley wrote:Color temp is on all LED packages that I have seen, sometimes carefully hidden, and most CFLs. If there is no color temp on a CFL, you can assume it's in the 2700K range.WildBill wrote:Very true! They should start putting the temperature on the packaging.03Lightningrocks wrote:I have learned the hard way that temperature is possibly more important than lumens. At one point my living room looked like my reptile terrarium. I had to purchase new bulbs in the correct color range!WildBill wrote:...."Abraham"......
True. It reminds me of trying to something for nothing. You get 70W for the price of 20W [but the bulb costs more!]
I tried using some "grow" lights, thinking that would be closest to sunlight, but I didn't like it.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.03Lightningrocks wrote: For the record. You two aren't doing much to help the situation.
Eureka! [it's Greek, look it up]. After all this time I have finally figured you out.Abraham wrote:WildBill,
It's not at all like watching T.V. I only wish that were so.
This thread is so riveting, compelling, I can't tear myself away.
Whoops, thread narcolepsy hitting once again, zzzzzzzz, cough, drool, hiccup, zzzzzzzzz
Abraham wrote:This has got to be THE most riveting thread I've ever had the great good fortune to read, but for some reason, I keep falling asleep at the keyboard while reading it - must stay awake, eyelids growing heavy, head inclining to chest, I'm fighting it, fighting it zzzzzzzzzzzz
I agree that forums are distinctly different from blogs. Of course, there are the "look at me" blogs. There are some look at me and "see how clever I am" blogs. Some blogs appear to me to be harmless rambling or maybe a personal diary that is published for all to see. Some blogs are closer to the annoying newsletters that some people send out at Christmas time.Abraham wrote:I posted this thread and hadn't come back until now.
NcongruNt states:"There are lots of blogs that do very little than spout drivel from some schmoe about whatever it is he thinks is important."
Salient point and the greatest common denominator in blogging. This is what I immediately think when someone cajoles us with - "read my blog". Some schmoe begging for attention for his dopey views and inexpert opinion on whatever.
Being importuned to "read my blog" also sounds pretentious, pompous and grating...and yes, there's a small percentage out there that perform a valuable service. From what I've seen of this type, the originator isn't waving a personal flag for ego satisfaction.
WildBill discussed blogs and forums.
I see forums as distinctly different from blogs.
Forums aren't owned by the posters. It's a meeting place for a lot of give and take. It's not for ego advantage.
When I see "read my blog" on a forum, I get annoyed at the presumption. The so called blogger is riding the coattails of a web site where his inveigling isn't really appropriate, but not so egregious that many will confront him.
Very true! They should start putting the temperature on the packaging.03Lightningrocks wrote:I have learned the hard way that temperature is possibly more important than lumens. At one point my living room looked like my reptile terrarium. I had to purchase new bulbs in the correct color range!WildBill wrote:...."Abraham"......
True. It reminds me of trying to something for nothing. You get 70W for the price of 20W [but the bulb costs more!]
True. It reminds me of trying to something for nothing. You get 70W for the price of 20W [but the bulb costs more!]03Lightningrocks wrote:I agree but for now that is how they label and sell them. Lumens is on the package but the watts are featured center stage.WildBill wrote:It seems like it's time to start paying more attention to lumens, rather than watts.
Saying that a 75W bulb only uses 17 watts doesn't make sense.
I know how much light I expect to get from a 100W bulb in my lamp [enough to read a book], but don't have any idea how many lumens.
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I don't know.Abraham wrote:So what's all the back and forth about...?
Incandescence is the emission of light from a hot body as a result of its temperature. The term derives from the Latin verb incandescere, to glow white.Abraham wrote:P.S. What does incandescent mean?
I still have some incandescent flashlights, but all my new purchases have been LED. I have found the CREE flashlights on Meritline to be very good. They are only about $6 and use one AA battery. They are extremely bright. I haven't used the long enough to know how long a battery will last. I bought a dozen of them to give away for Christmas.philip964 wrote:Anyone sticking with their incandescent bulb flashlights? Yes the market does take care of it self without the need for new laws.
What is the title of the book?jimlongley wrote:Yes, you can use them if you have them, but once they burn out replacing them will be next to impossible.talltex wrote:The government has mandated that they will not be available for sale...but if you have'em, you can use'em. I don't really care much, but my wife does...she hates flourescents, and over the last year or so has been buying up cases of incandescents and we probably have enough stockpiled in one of my storage facilities to last us many, many years.jimlongley wrote:Working at Home Depot, I deal with people looking for incandescents and have to explain that the govt has mandated that they cannot use them any more.
I have been switching to LEDs for years, long before they were commonly available and were relatively expensive.
With reference to wiring issues and such causing problems: I was a noise trouble shooter for the phone company for years, and getting the power company to admit that they were transporting a problem, much less causing one, can be a thankless and frustrating task. At one point I had to actually train a power company engineer in noise propagation in order to convince him to even try an experiment to prove the noise in my telephone facilities was coming from the power company's plant (which, BTW, was in serious need of re-engineering and reconstruction) and after proving to him that the problem was coming from his stuff, he eventually got it fixed. A couple of months later I called him about an issue we were having in a remote valley in upstate NY, and his first response was "We do not generate or carry noise." I did not bother to try to reschool him, I just escalated over his head immediately.
There are many things that can cause noise on the power lines, and some of that noise can be very high energy even if the 240/120 60Hz is near the nominal level. Spurious frequencies from both inside the home and outside can cause all kids of issues, including electric clocks that run fast or slow, fluorescent bulbs that do not last, "ghost" bulbs (usually fluorescent) that can be seen to glow in the dark and all kinds of other stuff.
I was actually writing a book on this stuff a bunch of years ago, but a ham friend of mine beat me to the punch. Purely co-incidental, we had both noticed the need and started at about the same time, he just finished first.
