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captainkbt wrote:

mojo84 wrote:captain, I suggest you do a search on the forum and or contact Charles Cotton or Keith B regarding this. They are highly informed on this and many other related subjects. I especially encourage you to do it if you are or plan to be an instructor.

I am an instructor, and Im just telling you about what was discussed in Georgetown TX during instructor training. The student instructors came out with the understanding that, strictly legally speaking, it wasn't necessary to show CHL credentials unless specifically asked. Can you show me a penalty for failing to show CHL license IF the LEO doesn't ask for it and you are carrying? There is none that I am aware of. Why would the state penalize/punish a CHL holder for not automatically showing their CHL license when carrying in their vehicle when a non-CHL holder can carry legally in a vehicle without credentials? That's the only point Im making......not telling anyone what to do. I highly recommend to anyone who is carrying in their vehicle to either show their credentials or state that they are a CHL holder.

captainkbt wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Can you cite the source that says the officer already knows, one doesn't have to show chl and that he must ask for is specifically. In other words, pretty much all of it except the part regarding it being legal to carry in car concealed.

Source was a DPS officer instructor during CHL instructor training. Told us that LEOs already have that information when they pull you over and run a check prior to approaching your vehicle. Since then, I was told only DPS has this information but I have aslo heard other LEO agencies that have the information on the check. I was stopped by DPS and he asked me for my TDL, insurance, and CHL when he walked up to my window. I always assume an LEO already knows I have a CHL.

Regarding to show or not to show CHL on a stop. Legally speaking, according to Texas Government Code 411.205, you don't have to show your CHL ID until the LEO "demands" that you show it.....and only when you are carrying.

GC §411.205. REQUIREMENT TO DISPLAY LICENSE. (a) If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.