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by WildBill
Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:23 pm
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Topic: Education Reform
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Re: Education Reform

74novaman wrote:Not to mention maybe we could manage to do away with property taxes if we got rid of public schools. I realize they fund other things in addition to public school, but that is certainly a large portion of it.

Its hard to argue that I truly own my home when I have to pay taxes (or rent, whichever term you prefer) to the county every year for the privilege of continuing to own it. Since they can seize my property if I refuse or fail to pay property taxes, I'm no better than a mere renter living on government land.
Now that's something I could support. So much for being a "land owner". :grumble
by WildBill
Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:17 pm
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Topic: Education Reform
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Views: 3966

Re: Education Reform

misterholt wrote:Not gonna lie. Feels kinda good to have the administrator on a thread I created.

And to Bill. I think that would just about solve it. Now lets all get together, form a piece of legislation that provide vouchers to parents who want their children to receive an education from a private institution. #merica :patriot:
I am not quite ready to testify before congress about educational reform. ;-)

I was still writing, polishing and editing some of the mistakes in my post, but it's always nice to get a complement from Charles. :tiphat:
by WildBill
Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:26 pm
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Topic: Education Reform
Replies: 31
Views: 3966

Re: Education Reform

There have been a lot of good ideas on this thread. Unfortunately we won't solve the problems here.

In my opinion, AnyGun's comment about parents is probably the biggest factor in getting a good education. Not neccesarily two, but concerned and involved parents. It is not surprising that most of the better students have educated parents. The parents are the ones who need to instill the value of an education, give support and show their children by example. My father didn't finish his degree until I was in junior high, and then went on to get his master's degree. All while working full-time and raising a family.

I was lucky enough to be raised in a family that valued education. As a child I did not know where I would go to college or what subject I would study, but it was a given that I would go and graduate from college. My father and mother made me sure that I knew this from a very early age. My brothers and sisters also received the same message.

It takes a very special child to do well in school who doesn't have the home life that is conducive to learning. Having parents who are too busy or care more about themselves than their children's education makes it difficult for a student to study and do their homework and suceed. There are children many who overcome this handicap, but most do not.

Through out my life, I have had excellent, good, mediocre and horrible teachers. In the workforce, I have had the same spectrum of managers and co-workers, so I am not going to bash teachers or their unions. Teachers, "good or bad" have only so much control over the education of their students. If the students don't show up or come in late or unprepared there is only so much a teacher can do. One thing that school administrators can do is make sure that the teachers have the resources that they need to teach their students. They can also minimize the politics and bureaucracy so that they don't tie up their time with non-productive projects and meetings.

One of the reasons that private schools can provide a better education is because to their students education is a privilege, not a right. Private schools have much more discretion who they accept into their school and who they allow to stay in their school. They have the flexibility to remove a disruptive or truant student who takes away from the education of other students.

If you look at any good school or university, it is not the teachers or the professors that make them a good school. It is the caliber of the students and their desire and willingness to learn and suceed that makes them good. :tiphat:

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