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mojo84 wrote:Why do I get the impression they are just throwing out lies and waiting for the news cycle to run its course?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01 ... aters.html

"The information that they have given us, and through their commanders is that they did stray accidentally into Iranian waters due to a navigation error," Carter said in a television interview with Univision at U.S. Southern Command in Miami.

"So that seems to be the original cause of this, according to the interviews that we have done," Carter added...

Initial indications from U.S. officials were that a mechanical failure was to blame.

Yet both boats were able to exit the area once the sailors were released, raising questions about that explanation.

carlson1 wrote:

parabelum wrote:I know this what I'm about to say may be offensive to some, and I acknowledge that I come from a different culture and a different world, but, in the midst of everything, another thing came to me.
In Sarajevo we had to at times charge at tanks with nothing more then half busted sks rifles, but we did what we had to do to to keep the enemy away.

Having said that, why did these vessels not engage the enemy? I apologize in advance for offending some, but , in Bosnia, this would be considered seditious act at the least.

I am trying to make sense of this. I know this isn't Bosnia, but what has happened here?

I remember US military fighting with such bravery, side by side with those of us who tried to fend off genociadial maniacs, and this doesn't make sense.


These guys had to have been set up.

Not the same America. Eight years of Obama.

powerboatr wrote:i just sent this to my rep Henrsarling
I keep finding more holes in the event.
the video of the "commander" apologizing for the boat crews actions was to well scripted. I am sure he was under the gun so to speak.
But still it just does not wash. Boat crews are highly trained, as they are in harms way ALOT. I doubt the young man was any higher than a 0-2 and seriously doubt he was that high in rank. Most likely he was a Senior or Master chief petty officer. But still he did what he was scripted or forced.
watch the videos of the others in the room as he speaks.



my letter.

As a 22 yer veteran of the US Navy, I find the events of the last two days to be a sham, cover up ad out and out deceit planned by our leaders.

I have deployed to the Persian gulf numerous times
and the shear number of Navy vessels and military aircraft in this region, makes it HIGHLY unlikely that these two patrol boats (with a range of 800-600 NM) both had propulsion system failures, and were left to their own devices. Both have twin diesel engines that drive water jets. Even if one engine had mechanical issues the other one would provide power to safely navigate and head to safer waters. If this had happened, the operational boat would have taken the disabled vessel in tow. It was reported both vessels had navigation failures and radio failures. I say this is simply to far fetched to believe. But again if both vessels navigation systems failed. the crew had satellite radio phones and could have reported in. OR used good old fashioned dead reckoning. Not to mention the 12-20 US navy ships in the region, plus the sea-lift command ships in the same body of water. Where was the over-watch in the E2 aircraft and AWACs that are airborne in the region? If these boats were to refuel, where as the refuel vessel? Where was the estimated 12 helicopter assets on the support ships for the Harry S Truman? Where were the helicopters and aircraft from the Truman? Where were the boats operational command when the boats supposedly went dark with radio failures? The Persian gulf is not that big.
It seems awfully convenient these crews were detained, the president said nothing and the Secretary of State magically ensures the release. Just in time for the SOU speech and the president touts great Iran relations.
Lastly, ask yourself in this day in age how many young people don't have their smartphone with them all the time? So I imagine at least one sailor did and could have used google to navigate back to safe waters.

mojo84 wrote:I probably shouldn't be so cynical but the timing of this just raises some questions in my mind. Add to it that one boat didn't tow the other. The big hoopla about how the Iranians captured them where they weren't supposed to be and then turned them over with a warning that we are pushing our luck (my words not a quote). To me it just fits Obama's narrative of us being the bad guys and everyone else are the good guys that the US owes and apology to.

It just doesn't pass the smell test to me.