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extremist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:53 pm I presume you were against the invasion of Iraq also?

Seriously, trying to draw out reducto ad absurdum argument through a fictitious parallelism? If you want to be an apologist for a pig, then just say so. Are you inferring that US is SAME as Russia by your question/post?

Two of the victims were a pregnant woman and her unborn child. May you rot forever Putin.
What supposed to have been a joyful future was shattered, all because of the true nazi Putin and his unnecessary invasion and killing.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukrainian ... l-mariupol

Ruark wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:42 am How do you know they're "shelling maternity hospitals"? Did you see it on the news?

Yes, a building that was once used as a maternity hospital was shelled. Regardless of who's doing what in this conflict, I find it a little hard to swallow that they would deliberately, willingly, knowlingly bomb a hospital full of women giving birth. Makes a juicy story, though - kinda like inflation being Putin's fault.

Hard to believe right? I know man, when we were telling the world that people were cut into pieces and man had their testicles removed and …. fill in the gap, many had same expression. No way! Why would they do that?! Well friend, because evil exists whether you (not you directly but general “you”) want to accept it or not. I understand how it may seem surreal, especially if you’ve never been in the war zone, deep behind the lines. But yep, that is what happens in the war.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:11 am

Ruark wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:37 pm This whole thing is just looking stranger and stranger....

I think that we can all agree that the administration's logic is flawed, and it has an agenda that is only peripherally related to its handling of foreign affairs with Russia……whether or not we tend to favor Russia or ukraine in the current conflict. Tucker is right. There IS something bizarre going on, and Jen Psaki only reinforces that belief.

But that doesn’t change the reality that Russia invaded Ukraine without provocation, and is shelling maternity hospitals and homes for the disabled…things for which there is zero justification. And Israeli PM Bennett, of all people, just advised Zelenskyy to surrender and accept Russia's terms……ISRAEL. I have always been a fervent defender of Israel, in no small part because I will always support a smaller nation's people's right to exist as a nation unto themselves. SHAME on Israel for abandoning this principle towards Ukraine.

Good points as always. What really makes me fume is that I have seen first hand in Bosnia the outcomes of the inaction by the West to stop the evil. As Lord has blessed us with what we have, we in the Western World should always be the force of good that will fight against evil.
In Sarajevo I’ve watched my friends, family and neighbors shredded to pieces by Serbian artillery, day and night, for several years. I’ve seen genocide that I wish no person ever has to witness. Kids getting picked of by sniper fire, first shooting them in the limb area to cause pain, then as they crawl in agony and their parents or other people try to save them sniper would deliver head shot. Psychological atrocities.
We had pleaded with the West to help us, especially with no fly zones and had to wait quite some time, and had to suffer incredible casualties before the World woke up.
We would get shipments of food and since Cetnics controlled the airport, one half would go to them and the other half to us. Feeding our killers is what we thought off.
The hesitancy was in my opinion due to inept leadership by the West (yes, includes Bush Sr. as well), and the lies that we in Sarajevo were all Muslim jihadies, as an example. Never mind that in reality, many of us were Croats, and even Sarajevan Serbs (one of our leaders was a retired Serbian army general). So the ethic cleansing continued, concentration camps were allowed to operate etc. ALL because of the lack of desire and will to stop the evil from propagating.
So now I find myself as a naturalized US Citizen frustrated watching the same happen to Ukrainian people. Is Ukraine crooked Country? I don’t know. Probably, but how much more than we have become? Are there shady things going on there? Likely, but how much more than what is in our own backyard (and front yard!)?
The fundamental issues that I look at right now are:
1. Are Russian forces killing civilians at will?
2. Did Russian forces invade a sovereign Country?

To me, answer to both is YES. So, I’d like to see us in the West address those two things first, then the rest can be examined. But right now, killing has to stop!

Paladin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:47 pm If anybody missed Tucker's segment on Ukrainian biolabs, it is already over 1 million views on youtube:

I like Tucker, but as children are being shredded by Russian shrapnel, some of his talking points there are near Kremlinesque. You know…there’s time and place for everything…
Allow me to elaborate, where did this “bombshell story” and the narrative originally emanate from? Well of course it was from Russian media, fueled by Kremlin.
Now, does anyone believe for one second that this is a brand new earth shattering revelation that nobody, including Tucker himself, knew up until 48 hrs ago or so?
Rather odd timing, in my humble estimation, that just as Russian economy started to really tank, their invading forces began to get beaten more and more, and Putin was on the cusp of getting even more pressure and isolation, this “comes out” suddenly? Wow, what a coincidence.
That is what raises my eyebrows more than the story itself.
I am not accusing Tucker per se, I am just puzzled with the story, narrative and most important with the timing itself.

Spot on TAM. Thanks for taking the time to provide in depth assessment.

Ruark wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:58 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:04 pm Peter Santenello has a YouTube channel where he investigates different types of communities and does human interest reports on the people who live there, and what their daily lives are like. He’s covered the Amish and Mennonites in Ohio, Muslims in Detroit, NYC gang life, Chicano culture in East L.A., immigration and the Texas/Mexico border, etc.

He lived in Ukraine for 4 years, reporting on things there, and returned to the US about a year ago. His wife is Ukrainian, and they have a number of friends both there, and in Russia. One gets the impression that he’s maybe a little bit left of center, but he’s not a whack job, and he scrupulously keeps politics out of his videos…which I have enjoyed and found interesting.

Interesting comments from him, thanks for posting it. A couple of points did sort of jump out. He talked about most Ukrainians being against the Russian presence - EXCEPT for people from some parts of the south and the east. Exactly. Those are the ethnic Russians, 14,000+ of whom have been killed over the past 8 years by Ukrainian radicals.

He also said "if Russia wins, there will be no Ukraine." Not true. Russia's mission in Ukraine is twofold: to stop the persecution of ethnic Russians in the south and east, which continues as you read this, and to demilitarize the country, because of the threat it poses if it ever joins NATO. The goal is for Ukraine to become a neutral country politically, without militaristic aspirations like it has today. Zelensky is horribly inflaming the situation, pretending to be some valiant Joan of Arc hero, and making everything worse and increasing the destruction and suffering.

If Russia wanted to "conquer" Ukraine, they could have easily steamrolled over it in a few days. They could have bombed Kiev into the stone age in a couple of hours. They haven't, simply because they're not interested in "acquiring" Ukraine in any way, shape or form. Russia wouldn't have Ukraine if you handed it to them on a silver platter.

I’ve lived through the war criminal Slobodan Miliosevic and his fellow Russian dictatorship comrades friend. Putin and the invaders are torching civilians, kids and everything that stands in the way, right now. They are evil, pure evil. What you type is straight out of Pravda. Those of us who lived directly through Russian aggression ain’t buying it pal. They are getting hammered in toe to toe fighting, so now it is civilian infrastructure destruction and psychological warfare they are after. By the way, their low rank soldiers by in large are not into this. I’m sure Pravda isn’t reporting though.
Putin is an evil communist bully, why be an apologist for this monster? Sorry to be personal, but what you’re typing might as well be coming from Kremlin directly, with all due respect.

philip964 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:18 pm

Good riddance.