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by Texian
Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:33 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Walking through 30.06 signs
Replies: 85
Views: 14604

Re: Walking through 30.06 signs

In my earlier post, I quoted your first post
Texian wrote:LedJedi said,
Business owners have rights and freedoms just like you and I. We have no legal
"right" to patronize a private business.
The first sentence is true; the second sentence is not. I am from the era
that denied black americans the right of access to all manor of
businesses, either in part or entirety. The civil rights laws of our
country do not allow you to discriminate as you wish. The law gives
specific rights to many classes of citizens including CHL holders,
including the right to enter private businesses along with all other
members of the public unless legally proscribed. If the 30.06 signs are
not compliant, then they are not legal. If your conscience and
moral code restrain you, of course you should obey them. You are then
obeying a higher law than that of the state.
LedJedi wrote:
To ignore their obvious intent is questionably legal at best, but worse it's immoral and contrary to the values our country was founded on by ignoring the rights of private property.

If you don't like a place being posted, do something about it, but don't ignore it.
Here you have a problem when you refer to something being questionably legal: Either it is legal (statute + case law + OAG) or it is not. The rights of private property are not absolute. Our personal opinions/moral codes do not apply here to anyone besides ourselves. Your personal take on morals and honor is binding on you but it is not binding on others. However, the law is. The "thought police" have not been commissioned yet.
by Texian
Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:49 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Walking through 30.06 signs
Replies: 85
Views: 14604

Re: Walking through 30.06 signs

LedJedi said,
Business owners have rights and freedoms just like you and I. We have no legal
"right" to patronize a private business.
The first sentence is true; the second sentence is not. I am from the era that denied black americans the right of access to all manor of businesses, either in part or entirety. The civil rights laws of our country do not allow you to discriminate as you wish. The law gives specific rights to many classes of citizens including CHL holders, including the right to enter private businesses along with all other members of the public unless legally proscribed. If the 30.06 signs are not compliant, then they are not legal.

If your conscience and moral code restrain you, of course you should obey them. You are then obeying a higher law than that of the state.

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