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The blame at Waco can be split 50/50. David Koresh was a wack job and the feds tried heavy handed tactics. It didn't work out for either party and some innocent women and children died. The feds could have come up with a better solution but instead chose to flex their muscle.

PBR wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:39 pm I posted something like this on the thread about the caravan. What could they do if us citizens stood up and armed ourselves to stop them at the border. Honestly if our government will not protect our borders we should have the right to ourselves.

I agree. What's sad is I think they'll make it through the border. The government will do what's pc. The America from 60 or 70 years ago is dead. The majority of the American people don't have the grit like their ancestors. If any shots are fired it will be from civilians and they won't never see the light of day again. Life has gotten to easy and most aren't willing to pick up a weapon and stand opposed. A handful of armed civilians will just got too jail if they try to stop them. It will take thousands of armed citizens to get the job done. So many that the government won't have the capability of prosecuting all of them. Power in numbers.