OK, if my last post didn't make sense, I'll rephrase it. Here's a different way of looking at it.
(In 1993) Sorry, we're in Texas. Texas doesn't allow concealed carry. Live with it or move.
(In 2007) Sorry, we're in Texas. Texas doesn't allow you to stand your ground. You must retreat before using deadly force. Live with it or move.
(In 2015) Sorry, we're in Texas. Texas doesn't allow you to openly carry a handgun or carry a handgun on college campuses. Live with it or move.
This logic has never been used by our legislators, at least with gun issues. Or it has been used, but it hasn't stopped these "new" bills from becoming law. LTC holders should be allowed to carry in as many places as possible, especially because of how law abiding they are, and only be restricted with force of law if their presence either actively harms someone else (very hard to argue with concealed carry in a business) or actively creates danger (for example in a jail where an inmate could take a weapon or just randomly attack somone who is armed and use it to escape, and the risk is just way too high). IMO any restricted carry area should be strongly supported by a compelling reason such as these two.
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- Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:38 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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- Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:01 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: For those concerned about property rights:
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Re: For those concerned about property rights:
Some people would have also said that Texas would have never had open carry, we're fighting the unbeatable foe, etc. Or in 1993 we would have never had concealed carry with the current governor especially how she said she would never sign a concealed carry law. Or that we would have never had campus carry. If the Texas legislators and people had followed your advice then we would never have concealed carry in Texas. This forum might not even exist right now. But look where we are now. In 2017 it could be time for a clean up bill to remove many prohibited locations where we can carry and possibly a 30.06 removal could be included. I'm not sure how it's gonna happen. I'm not sure if Senator Birdwell is going to support such a bill especially with the way he supports private property rights. It would probably have to be amended on to the bill in the House. It would be great however to remove racetracks, 51% locations, colleges' ability to create gun free zones, and other schools and maybe other banned carry places from where we can't carry.Abraham wrote:Some of you think 30.06/30.07 "ought" to reflect other states and their gun laws.
Sorry, we're in Texas, but you can dream the impossible dream, fight the unbeatable foe,
bear with unbearable sorrow, to run where the brave dare not go...
Ah, get over it.
You're in Texas and we have 30.06/30.07.
Live with it or move.
- Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:39 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: For those concerned about property rights:
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Re: For those concerned about property rights:
Do it like Utah. The only places that would be banned to carry concealed are secured areas with notification via signs, a secure area of an airport, a courthouse, and a correctional facility. Any secure area must have a place for people to store their weapon before they enter. Of course if someone carries in a business they could still be told to leave or face trespassing charges. Eliminate the 30.06 signs but keep the 30.07 signs.