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by LedJedi
Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:04 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Murphy police very professional
Replies: 28
Views: 4148

nitrogen wrote:Well, you make a great point; I can't argue with what you said.
Putting pressure on our elected officials pass laws to clarify rights we should already have would be a ideal way to fix the issue.
:)... ok, i made the card... the rest is up to you :)

seriously. i know it sounded like I was railing on you. I honestly wasn't. Just don't want folks passing the buck :). Lord knows I've done it long enough myself.
by LedJedi
Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:22 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Murphy police very professional
Replies: 28
Views: 4148

nitrogen wrote:LedJedi: You sir, rock.

the problem here, is, the courts. The courts have been whittling away our constitutional rights in regards to what law enforcement can do for years.

Thank you sir for your kind words.

However, i must respectfully disagree on one point. The fault is not with the courts. The fault is with every one of us reading this sentence right now. We tolerate what the courts do. We allow it. We don't have a hissy fit and protest in large numbers. We dont elect politicians that reflect what we truly feel. We dont get passionate about it if someone whittles away our freedoms. We just let it slip quietly into the night. Make your opinions known!

Write your elected officials. Tell them politely but very passionately what you think and tell them you expect them to represent your passion. Write your police departments and tell them exactly how you feel about the practice of disarming law abiding citizens who are minding their own business.

Start a petition in your town informing the police department that it's law abiding citizens who pay their salaries and for their patrol cars to make your streets safe to not appreciate being disarmed if they are not misbehaving.

Don't pass the buck of responsibility for changing what is going on in your community on to someone else. Draw a line in the sand directly in front of you and proclaim "the buck stops here".

Take an active role and do what you can to see that your rights are restored and protected. You personally can do that, even if it's something as small as making a small little card that forum geeks like me can print out and have with them in their wallets.

Even the smallest pebble still makes a wave.
by LedJedi
Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:01 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Murphy police very professional
Replies: 28
Views: 4148

Disarming a citizen who is behaving is unconstitutional. Furthermore, by doing so that police officer is taking full responsibility for my security. If the other suspect harms me in such a way that I would have been justified in using my weapon you better bet that police officer and his dept are going to be seeing my lawyer in court, as will any establishment I visit that disarms me via a 30.06 sign and the same circumstances occur.

That's not to say i don't have the utmost respect for police officers but disarming a citizen who is otherwise behaving is imo treating me like a villan. If I have to put my gun down I want a a full search of everyone on the scene before I disarm.

I realize Texas law thinks it gives LEO the right to disarm a CHL but Texas law does not trump the Bill of Rights. I may end up turning over my weapon simply because I don't want to get arrested or shot for refusing to do so but you better bet any leo that does that is going to get a polite earfull from me and possibly a call from my lawyer.

Disclaimer: I have nothing but the utmost respect for the LEO as a profession and the vast majority of individual officers I've met. The practice of disarming a law abiding citizen is what I have an issue with. And don't sing me that song about "for everyone's safety". When I accidentally shoot someone, then you can disarm me for safety reasons. Until that time the safest thing for everyone is for everybody to keep their guns exactly where they are.

Edit: I believe i'm going to have this little card printed up and in my wallet behind my license just in case I run into this situation.

Disarming Citizens Card:

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