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- Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:34 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carrying on reservations
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Re: Carrying on reservations
The Tiguas here had gambling ( blackjack and slots I think ). The State sued to prevent gambling and won. The Tiguas tied the winning tickets not direct money. The State declared that gambling, sued and won. The Tiguas have sued to return to gambling and lost. Casino is a big musical venue now I believe. Tiguas still have some legal action pending. No gambling at the moment.
- Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:38 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carrying on reservations
- Replies: 31
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I have no idea how you read into my statement that tribal Police could be crooked. I'm just stating that ty do have the ability to detain a non tribal member (DUI as an example) and Hold you for procecution ( by the state I guess ).tbrown wrote:No doubt a crooked cop can ruin your whole day. However, I think it's unfair to paint tribal police with a broad brush. From what I have seen, one is more likely to run afoul of a crooked cop in Dallas or Olmos Park than an Indian reservation.WTR wrote:I don't care how it eventually plays out. Know that the tribal Police can sure put a crimp in your day if you are doing anything they deam illegal. I have news for you. Some Tribal members do not like the white eye to begin with and they can ruin your day no matter what the final disposition is. So like it or not, they do wield power over anyone on tribal land
- Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:25 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carrying on reservations
- Replies: 31
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We have the Tigwa ( sp ) tribe here in El Paso. Gas is cheaper. I don't smoke so I couldn't comment on cigarette prices. They have been in a constant battle with the State over the right to gamble. Funny thing the tribe voted to accept 1/16 Indian blood instead of 1/8 th because of all the Mexican blood. The tribe is a joke in my eyes.
- Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:42 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carrying on reservations
- Replies: 31
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I don't care how it eventually plays out. Know that the tribal Police can sure put a crimp in your day if you are doing anything they deam illegal. I have news for you. Some Tribal members do not like the white eye to begin with and they can ruin your day no matter what the final disposition is. So like it or not, they do wield power over anyone on tribal land
- Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:22 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carrying on reservations
- Replies: 31
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BBYC wrote:If you want to bash cops instead of discussing the law, both legislative and case law, count me out.
Who is bashing the Police?
- Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:55 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carrying on reservations
- Replies: 31
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They may not be able to Put you in prison but they sure will detain you. I have personally seen people detained and forfit their vehicles due to illegal hunting on tribal land, could be the State or the Feds have the final say, but don't think for a second that the tribal police won't throw you in cuffs.BBYC wrote:WTR: When was Oliphant v. Suquamish overturned? I missed that.
- Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:31 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carrying on reservations
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Try them. They have some type of granted jurisdiction over you.... In NM , AZ, and UT anyway.ScottDLS wrote:Tribal Nations have no CRIMINAL authority over non-Indians (actually non-tribe members). This is long standing SCOTUS interpretation of Federal law. They have considerable civil jurisdiction though, perhaps to include seizing your firearm, vehicle, and perhaps even to detain you for a period of time. However, if you are carrying a firearm in accordance with Federal and State law, you can not be criminally sanctioned for such on Indian land if you're a non-Indian. Many states grant tribal police State jurisdiction as peace officers that allow them to charge non-Indians or Indians under state criminal law.WTR wrote:apostate wrote:I follow State law. Tribal courts generally have jurisdiction over tribe members only.
WRONG. You go kill an Elk on tribal land and you will see who has jurisdiction..... Same for up holding order in a tribal building ( casino, restaurant ). Or if they may issue a ticket on a Federal highway running through the reservation. That being said I have had some type of firearm with me 100% of the time as I have travel through various reservation. I have stopped for fuel, use the RE or stop to buy a hunting license on many reservations...... Never had a problem.
- Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:15 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carrying on reservations
- Replies: 31
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Re: Carrying on reservations
apostate wrote:I follow State law. Tribal courts generally have jurisdiction over tribe members only.
WRONG. You go kill an Elk on tribal land and you will see who has jurisdiction..... Same for up holding order in a tribal building ( casino, restaurant ). Or if they may issue a ticket on a Federal highway running through the reservation. That being said I have had some type of firearm with me 100% of the time as I have travel through various reservation. I have stopped for fuel, use the RR or stop to buy a hunting license on many reservations...... Never had a problem. By the way, I have eaten in restaurants atached to a casino and they are.posted.