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KBCraig wrote: Actually, I think they choose that platform because it's so pathetically easy. Hackers (not real hackers, but "h@ckerz" and crackers) start off as codekiddies, who think they've done something cool by writing a script.

OSX has holes too, but why exploit them when hardly anyone gets affected?

KBCraig wrote: Eh? You just plug it in!

and thenn.... :). How do you get network drives to map and interface with a 2k3 Active Directory domain? Thats the fight I'm having now. I have a G4 on my desk at work trying to get ANY OSX flavor to function like a work environment would need it to.

It can be done, for a $300 piece of software, that disturbs other elements of the OS.

KBCraig wrote: How many x86 boxes do you think I would have to buy during that same timeframe? Add up the hardware cost, repairs, lost data because of complete re-installs, and professional tech support, and wintel is just as expensive as MacOS. Similarly configured high-end wintel systems do cost just as much as a Mac box.

Hardware cost? Macs use the same standards on every aspect other than processors (oh wait...apple is switching to intel too). Same RAM, same HDD, same IDE drives, same fans. Which hardware piece fails on PCs but manages to stay intact on a Mac?

Now - real world problem with mac hardware. Our G4s have integratec network cards so you just plug it into an ethernet jack. Line surge blows the onboard card. $600 to replace the Motherboard (only choice) OR - we could *try* to find a PCI network card for Mac (good luck).



Anyway - this is all done in friendly banter and a discussion that can seperate kin in IT. It's all fun and games. Like I said...I am going to be getting one in a bit. And, I'll still give you that they're sexy.

-nick

KBCraig wrote:The main way to avoid such infestations is to not use anything from Microsoft.

I try to not be too big a Mac bigot, but I haven't had a single virus, trojan, or malware since 1990. I use Firefox for MacOS X.

I mean this in love

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You are also paying way too much for older slower hardware in a pretty case! The only reason Windows is hacked the most, is because hackers can make the biggest statement by doing it. Why write a virus that will affect 10% of the computer loving population?

There is a reason the x86 (non Mac) platform is the standard for anything outside of the artsy fartsy. It is the most efficient, and cost effective way of getting things done in a useable way.

OSX is KIND of neat, but integrating it into a network is a joke.

That said - I'm going to get a power book because of music reasons (artsy fartsy see) - they integrate well as a midi controller.

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But - all in all - its your choice to get a mac and I'm glad you enjoy yours!

I can get boxed copies (legal) of XP Pro for about $50. I have a buddy that works for MS and he gets massive discounts at the MS store. FYI

If you have had spyware the ONLY sure cure is a reformat/clean install of XP.

After that, don't install junk and you should be good.

Spyware free for 2 yrs :)