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nightmare69 wrote:

talltex wrote:

nightmare69 wrote:All of our instructors are retired LEOs. The one with the least amount of experience has 16yrs on the streets that was cut short by a drunk driver. All the operators that talk about the cool ninja toys are active swat or were. We have a chief of police of a small town who is a special instuctor who is getting a helicopter, if that is not cool idk what is. They all say that LE is 95% boring, 4% cool, 1% terror.

You just don't seem to "get it" and keep making the points for us. That's precisely the mindset many of us are concerned about, and you seem to aspire to be just like "all the operators with the cool ninja toys" . What possible justification can be given for a police chief in a small town to NEED a helicopter, because that is one EXPENSIVE toy...just the maintenance would break most small town department's budget.

I get what you are saying. You don't like the fact that police departments are turning into the national guard with gadgets and toys that James Bond would be proud of. You are afraid that one day the police will come for your guns and you due to all the firepower and equipment they have now it would be suicide to try to resist. You believe that police are using any excuse they can to deploy swat and dress up like army rangers. You think that the police are becoming too powerful and exercising this power too frequently over the citizens they swore to protect. Am I close?

The government is the reason a lot of these small departments are able to get ahold of this equipment. MRAPS, helicopters, and all the other operator toys are bought through grant programs from the federal government.

ShootDontTalk wrote:

nightmare69 wrote: Getting the ninja toys a is not the main reason people get into LE. If they say it's not a cool part of the job they are a liar. LE is a para military career also. Over half of my class are former or still active reserve military.

No it is not. It is a civilian job. There are some militaristic aspects to the job, but that is not the result of being a paramilitary organization. The Fire Department has many of the same characteristics. Your job is to deal with the public and enforce the law, no more, no less.

And again, with all due respect to your instructors, I wish one seasoned police officer would come speak to you about the endless hours of paperwork, the boredom of a slow shift, getting spit on and cursed out by some woman whose husband you had to put in jail for beating her, and the very real truth that the vast majority of officers retire having never had to fire their service weapon. If you start to live with the anticipation of deploying all the "cool ninja toys", I think you might be very unhappy with the job. Law Enforcement is all about making a difference in the lives of the people who pay your salary. It's about leaving the community a better place to live. It is about protecting the innocent and defenseless.

Have you ever asked yourself why so many veterans become cops? Do you really believe it is to stay in the military and ride around town in combat gear all decked out with "cool ninja toys?" Please go ask them. You could take some of the advice here, but better you hear it in person.

nightmare69 wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

nightmare69 wrote:

mojo84 wrote:For some it's more fair than for others.

What is stopping you from going to the police academy? We have a couple in their 50s and one guy who is 63 in my class

Not interested in going just so I can carry a cool ninja toy.

It don't seem unfair to me then if you choose not to go through the requirements. One of the best perks for me will be getting to walk past 30.06 signs armed and going through the required training to be able to carry on an airplane when I travel to New York. Getting to carry in New York thanks to the LEO safe act is a nice benefit also.