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The Walrus wrote:It's an effective one-two punch. Block legalization of openly carried handguns for We The People and then disparage those who comply with the law in those states by carrying a rifle. Even I have to admit there's a mad genius to the antis' plan.

You missed the entire property rights issue...but welcome to the forum

Texas Dan Mosby wrote:

gigag04 wrote:...I wouldn't want a bunch of open carry mall ninjas making a scene in there.

Maybe I am in the minority of this but it seems like it would be bad for business. As a pro 2A person, I wouldn't go to an open carry rally, because, I'm always very aware when around armed strangers...and frankly all that hyper awareness gets tiring.

(If this is too close to the Starbucks thread please kill it)

So what you're saying is that behavior is secondary to appearance, and that you would support the irrational fears of customers who get scared when they see a gun.

O.K..

How about hoodies? Are you going to target citizens wearing hoodies as well? You know a lot of folks think anyone wearing a hoodie is a thug, and they've probably got a hidden illegal weapon on them anyway, right?

What about the MMA crowd? That shaved headed dude wearing the "affliction" T-shirt is "scary" to a lot of people too.


IMO, behavior is the deciding factor, not appearance. Appearances are easily faked. Behavior, not so much.

But I guess because we're talking about "guns", it's "different" right? It's a "special" case right?

Right. I agree 100%. Hoodies and Affliction shirts have never been improperly handled by middle aged wannabes who live in their mother's basement and play video games all night. Affliction shirts often are worn a few sizes too small, but that's another talk for another time.

Look, I think everyone should be able to own and carry whatever guns they want, but if a bunch of goobers with Bushmaster-grade rifles decked out with Airsoft accessories get close to my family, you bet ill be a little on edge.

Imagine what the general uneducated public goes through? Educate others in a way they appreciate.

The rabid open carry crowd is about as relevant to society as the KKK, but I will support the right of both groups to assemble and make their scene.

Just not on my privately owned land.

McKnife wrote:Last time I checked, gun show sales are still booming... and I see tons of mall ninjas there open carrying handguns and long guns. Respectful crowd, too. Maybe Starbucks should go on the offensive by reserving booths serving their products at gun shows.

Not really an apples to apples comparison but I don't go to gun shows either. In my experience, the signal to noise ratio is not very favorable.

...I wouldn't want a bunch of open carry mall ninjas making a scene in there.

Maybe I am in the minority of this but it seems like it would be bad for business. As a pro 2A person, I wouldn't go to an open carry rally, because, I'm always very aware when around armed strangers...and frankly all that hyper awareness gets tiring.

(If this is too close to the Starbucks thread please kill it)