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frankie_the_yankee wrote:While I mostly agree with your general point, I couldn't help but be struck by the example you cite quoted below.

Hamourkiller wrote: Go aggressively demand money from a bank and see how they react! Silly thinking. The act of demanding something so valuable is a threat in and of itself.

I think in most such cases, a bank will simply cough up the money and call the cops as soon as you leave, or earlier if they can trigger a silent alarm.

Very few banks employ armed guards these days. It's been a long time since I've heard of a bank employee or guard pulling a gun on a robber.

They carry insurance for this stuff too, so they don't really care.

But like I said, your main point (that the demand embodies a serious threat) is more or less valid, IMO.

I meant that the bank and police would take it as a bank robery attempt, nothing more. How they would respond would depend upon each individual circumstance. Just as we would have to do if this happens to us.

If he shows enough threat to get the wallet he has shown enough threat to get the lead.

Go aggressively demand money from a bank and see how they react! Silly thinking. The act of demanding something so valuable is a threat in and of itself.

Walk up to a strange woman and aggressively demand sex now! This will be deemed as a threat.

Go tell a strange couple with children that you want their kids NOW! This will be deemed a threat!

No different than your wallet, it is to valuable and taken by force to often for a reasonable person not to see a threat behind the demand for the wallet. The unspoken "OR ELSE" is a threat.

Asking or begging for money is one thing, aggressively demanding a wallet is another.