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However, you can ship using our ground service and an FFL on either end, and a 5 lb box should only be around $5.00. Any it will still get there by end of next business day. Even with $10-$25 in FFL fees, that's still much cheaper than using UPS!

http://lso.com/RatesGround2009.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sorry I can't do more right now. Wish I could help more, but at least we are clear here that you can ship firearms using LSO, and it will probably save you money. Try us out sometime, we are about half of the other carriers in TX, and parts of OK, LA, and NM and would very much appreciate your business!

iflyabeech

The is what I got from upper level management. I will see what I can do.

We can accept firearms in unmarked packaging from licensed dealer to licensed dealer or licensed dealer to consumer or consumer to licensed dealer after setup by an LSO account executive and the shipper must comply with all laws. We can not under any circumstances accept consumer to consumer shipments.

iflyabeech

boomerang wrote:
iflyabeech wrote:I am not sure where you gathered this information, but if in the document you posted on page 1,you were referring to the following statement, you neglected to view the exceptions! :)

Exceptions:
(1) Firearms (Shipper is responsible for compliance to local, state and federal laws). The
packaging must not be marked, labeled or otherwise identify as containing a firearm. Drop box
services are prohibited on shipments containing firearms.
a. Licensee to licensee
b. Licensee to consumer
c. Consumer to licensee
It's nice that manufacturers and dealers can use LSO but there's no exception for individual to individual which is what we were talking about.

Like I said in my previous post, I don't believe that is our policy..I am pretty sure we ship person to person....I will call some folks on that tomorrow. The document that that was quoted from appears to be from the state of Texas and not LSO.

Even if it isn't our current policy, I may be able to have it changed to suit Federal and State laws, especially given the interest here!

Lone Star Overnight--We live here, we deliver here! Overnight, Done Right!

iflyabeech

seamusTX wrote:I did not notice the exceptions, and from what I can tell they were in that document since January 2008. I'm sorry about that.

Is it correct that Lone Star does not ship between non-licensees, even in-state?

- Jim

I will call some folks tomorrow and get back to you. I am pretty sure we ship person to person, but let me check as it doesn't say so in that document. It does however say in compliance with state, federal and local laws. I really do not see us turning away legal business.

I deal with our HAZMAT and I do know that if you ship ammo, it must conform be in limited quantities and be shipped in accordance with Federal HAZMAT ORM-D consumer commodity regulations, and it must go via ground service, not air, due to these regs.

This thread has the basic gist of ammo shipping!
http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/5821-mailing-ammo.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

iflyabeech

seamusTX wrote:Everything that FedEx ships goes through Memphis, Tennessee, which means that it is technically in interstate commerce.

I don't know about UPS.

I do not like the way these issues are dealt with, but they have held up under court challenges for many years.

Lone Star Overnight is not part of this discussion, as they do not accept firearms for shipment. The ninnies.

- Jim

Jim, you might want to keep LSO in the discussion and check your research. I work for LSO and routinely carry firearms for shipment. Also easy on the namecalling! :) haha j/k

We are a great Texas based company and would love all of your business, including firearms. Our service is comparable to if not better than the big guys!

Feel free to PM with any questions.

I am not sure where you gathered this information, but if in the document you posted on page 1,you were referring to the following statement, you neglected to view the exceptions! :)

PROHIBITED ITEMS FOR SHIPMENT
Lone Star Overnight does not accept for transportation certain specific commodities, including but
not limited to the following:
a. Fireworks.
b. Firearms and/or ammunition. (1)
c. Alcoholic beverages. (2)
d. Tobacco products. (3)
e. Perishables.
f. Meat, poultry, fish.
g. Money, cash, currency, paper money, negotiable instruments, which represent cash like bonds,
cash letters and endorsed stocks.
h. Live animals to include birds, fish, insects and reptiles. Seafood fit for human consumption is not
prohibited but must follow packaging guidelines.
i. Human corpses, human organs or body parts, cremated or disinterred human remains.
j. Animal carcasses. (This restriction does not apply to properly packages meat, poultry or fish
products intended for human consumption. Parts intended for taxidermy may be accepted if
properly packed).
k. Suspected infectious materials.
l. Shipments that may require special license for transportation or that may cause damage or harm to
personnel, equipment or other shipments.
m. Any item whose transportation is prohibited by law, statute or regulation, for any reason, in a state
where it is intended to be transported.
n. Any item which requires LSO to obtain a local, state or federal license for its transportation.
o. Wet, leaking or odorous packages.
Exceptions:
(1) Firearms (Shipper is responsible for compliance to local, state and federal laws). The
packaging must not be marked, labeled or otherwise identify as containing a firearm. Drop box
services are prohibited on shipments containing firearms.
a. Licensee to licensee
b. Licensee to consumer
c. Consumer to licensee
(2) Alcoholic beverages (Shipper is responsible for compliance to local, state and federal laws).
Special mode of packaging in a three layered, leak proof transport system with absorbent
material consistent with quantity of liquid being shipped, is required
a. Licensee to licensee (beer, wine and spirits)
b. Licensee to consumer (wine only)
(3) Tobacco products (Shipper is responsible for compliance to local, state and federal laws).
a. Licensee to dealer
b. Distributor to licensee.

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