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montgomery wrote:

Soccerdad1995 wrote:... unless I was going to immediately fire in fear for my life.

To clarify, fear alone is not enough for deadly force to be justified. One that is in fear for their life because the OP is the aggressor with the means to immediately and imminently cause severe bodily harm or death to you and / or your loved ones is the standard. Agree?

I would agree - but everyone has the ability to cause imminent/severe bodily harm with their fists - especially when there are 2 of them. Being outnumbered and having someone displaying the type of aggression we are assuming/guessing at, especially after you've drawn your weapon, kind of elevates the situation IMO

anygunanywhere wrote:

montgomery wrote:

... Noah Dukart told KTTC-TV. “Then my friend said, ‘I dare you,’ and he shot him right in the heart.”

Everyone knows that self defense applies as a legal defense only on double dog dares.

Excellent point.

the double dog dare made me chuckle

But in all seriousness, think someone says "I dare you!" while backing up or walking away? My guess is he did that while puffing up his chest and getting closer. Someone does that to me when I already feel threatened enough to pull a gun and point it at them, and I believe my trigger finger is going to start getting itchy. The situation would ultimately decide on the outcome, but I could see where that was justifiably perceived as a threat.