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mojo84 wrote:This comment implies you are in a MC that is made up of current and former law enforcement officers. Is that the case? I think some of us are curious to know if you are actually a victim of unscrupulous cops or are just playing one. Some of the things you've said tend to lead me to the latter.

My patch is a 3 piece patch along with every other law enforcement motorcycle club who wears a 3 piece parch but are not profiled as such

Read the post in detail again,

Definitely not in a LE club the gentleman made reference to a 3 piece patch and it's meaning I my clubs patch is a 3 piece like LE clubs so to wear a 3 piece patch but they are not classified or profiled as law breaking individuals.

EEllis wrote:

cprems wrote:Do you belong to a recognized "MC"? Did you have any patches visible that would lead the PD to believe you were?

I'm interested in your case from a purely non partisan perspective. I have friends who ride in clubs and have no association with known outlaw "clubs".

Thanks.

He has used the "lingo" that people use when trying to give the impression they belong to an "outlaw" club but denies it is such, nor will he just state the name of the club. To me it sure seems like he is either trying to give a certain impression or he is in a club, or tributary club, that could very well meet the definition of a "Gang". Heck he won't even confirm or deny that he wears a 3 patch cut. If he is playing the same game with the cops then no wonder he didn't get his gun back.

EElis,

Get off the gas why don't cha. My patch is a 3 piece patch along with every other law enforcement motorcycle club who wears a 3 piece parch but are not profiled as such so it's obviously you know nothing of the mc culture so I won't debate that with you. I don't need to state the name of my club or the name of my job or my full name on a open forum that's irrelevant. I'm simply speaking on the CHL issue and not engage in a motorcycle club debate that's for a different site.

Belonging to a motorcycle club that they are trying to classify anyone as a criminal who is a part of a MC which is not...not a gang. Once again I don't have a record or so much as a scratch on my background.

Evening all,

Just providing a update. I hired a fantastic attorney and he worked hard to get my weapon released. Now the retaliation against me has immediately begun with the Seargent filing paperwork with the state to have my CHL revoked to which I will continue to fight for my right to legally carry and ride free in this great state. As I stated earlier I have did nothing wrong. This is profiling at the highest level. I am in the final stages of filing a civil rights lawsuit against all involved. Once again thank you all for the advice.

Be Blessed

Gentleman,

I greatly appreciate the responses and advice. I do not ride with a gang it is a traditional small in members mc, we are not a part of any affiliation what so ever in this state. Every biker or biker club is not a gang period point blank. I have been in the fiancé industry for over 20 years, college grad who just enrolled his oldest at Oklahoma University. I understand the recent events that took place will have cause and effect on bikers be it independent or club and I understand the extra precaution on the LE side that I respect. I just didn't agree at all with my incident and how it unfolded especially regarding my legally obtained and registered weapon is all. I'll keep pushing through the legal route and hope for the best.

Thanx again

The incident happened 3 weeks ago and my story is as true as it comes. I was pulled over by one unit and 3 others scooped in shorty after then they left once I was detained. The ticket was $170.00, they did not impound my scooter, and when released I got all my property back including my cuts. I simply don't see how the club "not a gang" that one simply rides with has anything to do with the arrest on a traffic citation and distruction of my saddlebags and once again my record is spotless never ever been arrested. I have been a proud CHL holder for over 8 years now.

I greatly appreciate the feedback and will keep everyone updated.

Be Blessed and right free

New user here need some advise,

I along with a few of my motorcycle club brothers have been harassed here lately. I was pulled over by 4 units who claim I didn't use my turn signal. I handed them my license, CHL and told them my weapon is locked in my saddlebag. They immediately began with the full court press of questions about me and my club affiliation and every patch on my vest. I cooperated and remained very polite still not understanding why I got pulled over. They wanted to search my cycle I said "no sir you can't as I did nothing wrong". All my information that they ran came back clean as I have never been arrested in my 42 years and I told them that. They went back and forth on the computer with their seargent who then told them to arrest me for the traffic citation! That gave them cause to mmediately tear into my saddlebags, broke them in the process and found absolutely nothing. I released my bike to my club brother who drove up in his car and I was then hauled off to jail at 10:00 pm where I sat till 6:30 am. After I finally saw the In-house judge she couldn't believe they arrested me on a turn signal ticket and immediately released me ......again I was never ever charged with anything to this day!

Now the detective is refusing to release my weapon stating he now shows me as a known associate to which I am not. I have hired a local Ft,Worth attorney to file the lawsuit and file a formal detailed complaint with internal affairs against all officers involved. Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.


Ride free