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Bill wrote:

Mac Truck wrote:

HEMIzygote wrote:Holy cow!! $16 bucks/hr and $26/hr for two people?

I guess thats average for Houston?

I went shooting yesterday at an indoor range (Lubbock TX) and paid $8 bucks total and was there for 3 hours. The outdoor range here is $4.25/hr.

Hey Man, at least we're not charging full price for the 2nd shooter. Show me a range in Houston that even offers a discount for the second person!

The only reason for not allowing Aluminum is that it is bear to seperate from the brass, and the steel can be done by using a simple magnet. I don't see why it wouldn't be feasible to shoot aluminum here as long as you agree to pick up your own casings?? I'll run it past the powers that be, but we're easy going folks.

Memorial Oaks does it 15plus 10.

Wife and I don't shoot their much for that reason, they are also not that busy, which might have something to do with their pricing

Well, Bill.... have you looked into the price of building an indoor range from scratch and paying the electric bill on the lights, a/c, and filtration system lately?

Top Gun charges full price for all shooters if I'm not mistaken. I know 59Range is cheaper, and they're great guys over there. More power to 'em. Memorial Oaks is a very clean establishment with extremely friendly folks that own it. It is also located on a parcel of land that happens to have very high property tax/value. As much as I'd love to just invite everyone over to my backyard and shoot ourselves deaf, we are in business to try to be profitable. We have a TON of money invested into this place that we need to show a return on as soon as humanly possible. We have some perks that we are very proud of as well, such as offering competitively priced ammo. ITS NOT THE CHEAPEST, but it won't make your sphincter pucker at the sound of cash register, either.

Besides that, now that we are done with the downstairs lanes, we need some revenue to come in to help fund the 3-D Shoothouse upstairs!! (looking like it will be frangibles only up there due to the weight of the steel needed to bulletproof the walls.)

Look at this way, for $1 more than Memorial Oaks, you get a free Diet Dr. Pepper and cheaper ammo if you are forced to buy it here.

REVISED RANGE RULES:

1. $4 off for LEO/Military for lane rental
2. YOU CAN shoot aluminum now, but just promise us that you will do your best to pick up your own casings when you are finished.
3. The price no longer is "per hour", it is a flat rate for any amount of time.
4. Charging per shooter is just the way it is. As far as I know, we are one of the only ranges in the area that even offer a discount for the second shooter. Its usually "per person".
5. Rapid fire all you want. The faster you shoot, the faster you'll come buy ammo!

Richard Porter at Marksman is one of the nicest, knowledgable, most helpful human beings in this industry. I have nothing but praise for the way he runs that range over there.

That being said, Marksman, along with the other indoor ranges in Houston have been open for several decades, some for several generations. They have paid off their initial building investment. We have NOT. We have had to deal with the rising property taxes out here, and a schlue of other issues.

For $16, I'll tell you what you will get. You'll get treated well, with respect, in an environment where safety is tantamount. In addition, you can shoot any caliber weapon you please, using any ammo you want, through as many guns as you can hold, in AIR CONDITIONED comfort. In addition to that, you won't walk out of here coughing up chunks of coal from your lungs, either.

I stand by my price of $16 and maintain that it is fair.

htxred wrote:marksman in south houston charges full price for each shooter, but the total cost of 2 shooters is $16, along with no time limit.

but by all means, im still going to check this joint out, since its so close to work. but im assuming most will put the range in the "expensive" category.

but then again, some say you get what you pay for, so im eager for the grand opening.

i'll just have to leave the 10mm at home since only 10mm ammo i can find that is affordable is blazer alum.

surfTX wrote:I would assume this is the ElRide Mac Truck????? Small world. Good luck with your new venture.

You got that right, brother! One and only! Who's this?

For now, all calibers are allowed, but we are possibly going to limit rifle (.223/7.62) to daylight hours only until we get this noise situation straightened out. They're in there right now as we speak putting up that stuff that KB referred on the blinds and lane box walls.

Fully Auto? I don't see why not as long as its done safely. It will be one loud sonofagun in there, though.

We're still working out the details on the memberships, but yes, we will offer them, and will be as competitive as possible with the pricing.

HEMIzygote wrote:Holy cow!! $16 bucks/hr and $26/hr for two people?

I guess thats average for Houston?

I went shooting yesterday at an indoor range (Lubbock TX) and paid $8 bucks total and was there for 3 hours. The outdoor range here is $4.25/hr.

Hey Man, at least we're not charging full price for the 2nd shooter. Show me a range in Houston that even offers a discount for the second person!

The only reason for not allowing Aluminum is that it is bear to seperate from the brass, and the steel can be done by using a simple magnet. I don't see why it wouldn't be feasible to shoot aluminum here as long as you agree to pick up your own casings?? I'll run it past the powers that be, but we're easy going folks.

I wanted to send out a hearty thanks to all of you great folks that have stopped by and have sent PM's during this nightmare....errr.... "dream" of building and opening a new indoor range!

We originally began this endeavor after shooting for years in the local leagues, and realizing that the "kink in the system" seems to be a lack of support for the CHL Instructor. A lot of ranges grew to treat Instructors as more of a liability than an asset, and more than a few expressed their dissatisfaction with the way things were being handled. My Old Man happened to sell a commercial property of his for an unexpectedly hefty profit, and hence, we began the quest to build a better mousetrap.

We wanted to have a place where we know you by name when you come in, and wave goodbye when you leave. A place where we have a peanut gallery of regulars by the coffee machine, willing to answer ANY gun related question, whether they actually know the answer or NOT. We want to create a place where the Instructor is relied upon for business, and is treated as a valued customer rather than a pain. There are currently 600 or so Certified Instructors in this area of the state, so we figured that it would be easier to market to those 600 than to spend money on "birdshot" marketing to the masses.

We are open officially at 10am on Saturday 10/6/07!!

EVERYONE is invited! Come one, come all! Introduce yourselves by your handle on here if you see me!

Sound is still an issue, but we are doing everything imaginable to dampen it. Thankfully, we are in the County by 2 blocks, so we don't have the pesky City noise ordinances with which to deal, but we also want to "love thy neighbor", or more importantly, have them love us.

So far, I think the prices are going to be fairly reasonable, $16 an hour per lane, $10 for each additional person per lane (2 max). You can shoot as many or as few guns as you want, and can shoot any kind of ammo you wish, with the exception of aluminum casings. Wolf is welcome!

I can't thank this forum and the great guys on it enough for the opportunity to help us make this happen. God Bless Texas, and MOLON LABE!!

-Mac Sanford

Shiloh Indoor Shooting Range
12703 Shiloh Church Rd
Houston, TX 77066
(281)520-1038
http://www.shilohshooting.com

Directions:
From Willowbrook Mall on Hwy 249 and FM 1960, head East on FM 1960 approximately one mile. Pass Cutten Road, and Shiloh Church Rd is on the right. Its a tiny, barely marked, one lane road directly across from the "Joe's Golf House" sign. Turn on Shiloh Church, and we are about 500ft on the right, in the red barn.