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CleverNickname wrote:

treadlightly wrote:Not a bad video, since it at least mentioned fighting with (improvised) weapons.

I've taken a lot of safety briefings at the different places I've worked at, and one thing that was emphasized was using the correct tool for the task, e.g., use a stepladder to get to a top shelf instead of pushing your office chair over to the shelf and standing on that.

This should also be applicable to self-defense; we should be allowed (if not encouraged) to use the correct tool instead of repurposing some scissors or a stapler or something to do a task for which they weren't designed.

Fire extinguisher seems like a good idea until the BG shoots it....

Vol Texan wrote:

allisji wrote:
I found it interesting at :59 that they took the second to pause and show that BG walking through a door posted with 30.06.

Well, in the shooter's defense, that was a 30.06 sign with pre-2016 verbiage. It refers to the "Concealed Handgun Law" in parenthesis, rather than to the "Handgun Licensing Law". It is no longer valid.

You are correct, the video I believe has been around since about 2012 or so...

rotor wrote:

TreyHouston wrote:With companies that post a 30.06, they NEED to provide armed security, at least 2 agents at all working hours as well as security in their parking lots. IF they decide not to then they need to be held responsible for what might happen. Just saying....

YES, I instantly noticed that they gunner walked right past the 30.06 sign. Did he not see it because it was white on clear glass? I don't understand why he would break the law like that! Perhaps he didn't speak English OR Spanish, maybe the sign needs to be in more languages!

The shooter was not in violation of 30.06. I never saw a hand gun, only a shotgun and therefore he did not violate 30.06 (assuming he also had a LTC which you must have if you are going to violate 30.06). I feel better about that. He was in a gun free handgun zone. I could have legally had my KelTec sub2000 with me if I were there.
The guard did not appear armed although I can not be sure about that.
Run, hide and fight are good choices but I could fight better if I was armed and that's why everyone on this forum has a LTC. Obviously some business do not want to allow us to really "fight".
The help will come soon-sure. 3 hours in Orlando.

This is what I thought was ironic. I assume that the camera work was to show that he was going into an area where guns aren't allowed. But the ironic part is that the 30.06 sign that they showed only bans license holders from carrying handguns. It isn't even intended to ban that man from carrying a concealed shotgun.

canvasbck wrote:Run, Hide, Fight is actually the standard for active shooter training here in the US. Even if you are armed, run/hide/fight is a very reasonable approach.

In Europe, they are teaching Run/hide/report.

I had never seen the video before, but I knew the mantra and immediately recognized that it had been used recently during the "active car/knife" attack at Ohio State.

My employer has rolled out a new policy regarding Workplace Violence. The crux of the training is how to identify and prevent violence in the workplace. But the training also addressed how to react to the worst case scenario... an active shooter. They showed this HPD video as the main talking point:



I found it interesting at :59 that they took the second to pause and show that BG walking through a door posted with 30.06.

I wanted to ask a question about gun-free zones and 30.06, but didn't want to make a political statement in the training session. I am considering emailing the Security Manager who gave the course to make my observation and ask for his opinion about 30.06. He has background with the Secret Service. He made a few comments about how strict gun laws don't prevent workplace violence or mass killings, but other than that he is required to give the company line. Our company has a gun free policy both at all of our manufacturing facilities and at all of our administrative facilities. They are posted 30.06 and 30.07.