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by allisji
Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:57 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Motorcycle accident interactions
Replies: 34
Views: 6264

Re: Motorcycle accident interactions

n5wd wrote:
C-dub wrote:...That's an interesting point about the ambulance and your firearm. What would they have done if no one could have come to take possession of it, wait for the police before examining or treating you? That sounds like a law suit waiting to happen due to delay of treatment.

And allisji brings up an interesting point, possibly in jest, but still a valid concern given their stated "policy." A private ambulance contractor could post and refuse to accept the firearm, but a city or county ambulance service can not, can they?
As a former field paramedic and one-time supervisor at MedStar, the EMS agency covering most of Fort Worth and much of Tarrant County, I can easily say that treatment would not be delayed if you were in anything but a non-emergency condition. If you're a "load and go" or going to take the trip by helicopter, if there were no police around to take custudy of your weapon, then arrangements would be made for the cops or a supervisor to take custody when you arrived at the hospital, or at the scene after you were flown out. In the meantime, your weapon would be nice and safe in the narcotics locker, it it were large enough to hold the weapon and holster, or secured up front with the driver.

Removing a weapon from an injured person is a touchy subject - from a crew safety viewpoint, though, I don't want an armed person who has suffered a possibly debilitating injury (think closed head injuries that begin to show symptoms minutes or tens of minutes after the initial impact) in the back of my ambulance. If the patient believes they need armed protection (which HAS happened in the case of some gang shootings) then we arranged for a cop to either accompany us in the truck, or follow us to the hospital.

I can only think of one time that a patient was given a choice of being transported via ambulance or giving up her weapon. Nice little old lady had a .32 given to her by her late husband, and she didn't want to be giving it to anyone she didn't know. Since she wasn't emergent (and truly didn't really need transport by Ambulance) a short wait for her daughter to arrive on scene solved the problem.
thanks for the explanation sir! :thumbs2:
by allisji
Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:56 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Motorcycle accident interactions
Replies: 34
Views: 6264

Re: Motorcycle accident interactions

C-dub wrote::cheers2: Here's to hoping for a swift recovery.

That's an interesting point about the ambulance and your firearm. What would they have done if no one could have come to take possession of it, wait for the police before examining or treating you? That sounds like a law suit waiting to happen due to delay of treatment.

And allisji brings up an interesting point, possibly in jest, but still a valid concern given their stated "policy." A private ambulance contractor could post and refuse to accept the firearm, but a city or county ambulance service can not, can they?
I was posting semi-in-jest... I would assume that most medical transports have a "no firearms" policy because most hospitals/medical facilities seem to do so as well (though hospitals are required to give notice per 30.06/30.07 in order to prohibit handguns). I don't know what threat a person poses if in need of emergency medical transport while armed...
E.Marquez wrote:I was also told the weapon could not accompany me in the ambulance.. I got the impression what and how I handled that was ,my concern... as in, give it to a friend, the cop, or toss it in the ditch, your call sir.... you can get transported, the weapon not so much.

I wounder what happens when the weapon is discovered en route ? Do they pull over and throw it out the door? Pull over call police and wait? pull over, exit the patient from the vehicle and go have ice cream?
I was wondering this myself.
by allisji
Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:05 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Motorcycle accident interactions
Replies: 34
Views: 6264

Re: Motorcycle accident interactions

did the ambulance have proper signage? :biggrinjester:

Glad that you are OK! Sounds like you did well not to cause alarm with the driver and first responders.

Ambulance fees really are ridiculous. I'm surprised that you don't get charged full price just because they had to respond to the scene. Sounds like you made a smart move by riding with your friend. Hopefully your medical insurance doesn't try to take you for another ride. It always seems to me like they try to make it as hard as possible just to get them to pay their share. Medical Bills are the worst, but dealing with the insurance agency can be almost as bad.

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