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by txinvestigator
Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:40 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Grayson County Trooper
Replies: 36
Views: 6949

srothstein wrote: AS CHL/LEO pointed out, the law requires you to stop for the vehicle displaying the red and blue (or just red for fire) lights. In most cases, if you signal your intent and pull over at the next safe or lighted place, no one will think badly of you. If you just ignore the car, you will hear the siren and see more cars fairly quickly. You will also get charged with evading (which is a felony) at that point. This may give you a defense since evading does require you to know it is a police officer.
According to the Texas Tranportation Code, 545.156, A police vehicle only need use an audible signal, with no light, or meet the lighting requirements of 547.305 and 547.702.

According to 547.702, police vehicles do not have to have red or blue lights. :)

Worst of all is the cars I believe to be illegal but growing in popularity - the stealth marked cars with the markings on the side in the same color - but a very slightly different shade - as the car's paint job. I would love to see those explicitly banned since I think they are just for the money.
What is illegal about that?
by txinvestigator
Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:28 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Grayson County Trooper
Replies: 36
Views: 6949

KBCraig wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:You can be charged with Fail to Yield the ROW to an Emergency Vehicle if you fail to stop for an unmarked police vehicle.
I think an adequate defense would consist of the many news articles about blue light rapists, in which an official police spokesman is always quoted, cautioning motorists faced with a vehicle displaying flashing lights but no markings, to drive slowly to a well-lighted public place before pulling over, and to call 911 if in doubt.
perhaps, perhaps not.
by txinvestigator
Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:01 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Grayson County Trooper
Replies: 36
Views: 6949

HankB wrote:
llwatson wrote: . . . So yeah, I think unmarked vehicles can make traffic stops.
I suppose they can . . . but if its unmarked, then by definition it isn't identifiable as a police vehicle.
Lets look at that;
Texas Tranportation Code
§ 541.201. VEHICLES. In this subtitle:
(1) "Authorized emergency vehicle" means:
(A) a fire department or police vehicle;



§ 545.156. VEHICLE APPROACHED BY AUTHORIZED EMERGENCY
VEHICLE. (a) On the immediate approach of an authorized emergency
vehicle using audible and visual signals that meet the requirements
of Sections 547.305 and 547.702, or of a police vehicle lawfully
using only an audible signal, an operator, unless otherwise
directed by a police officer, shall:
(1) yield the right-of-way;
(2) immediately drive to a position parallel to and as
close as possible to the right-hand edge or curb of the roadway
clear of any intersection; and
(3) stop and remain standing until the authorized
emergency vehicle has passed.

Nothing in the law requires that it be marked up in ANY fashion. You can be charged with Fail to Yield the ROW to an Emergency Vehicle if you fail to stop for an unmarked police vehicle.

Most officers will take into consideration if it was reasonable for you to be suspicious, and if you don't just attempt to ignore them.
by txinvestigator
Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:35 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Grayson County Trooper
Replies: 36
Views: 6949

AEA wrote:Just for discussion......I seem to remember where the PO were not allowed to be blacked out at night on the shoulder of any road!

I know it is done, and I know it is effective for the PO/City/County/Etc....

But is it legal?

Could the Perp (ha ha) have made a case in court on this?
Whether or not the LEO was in compliance with traffic laws at the time of the violation by BrassMonkey is irrelevant in court. it does not change the fact that he was speeding.


As far as your other question; it applies to all vehicles, but there is an exception.
Texas Transportation Code
§ 547.383. LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS ON PARKED VEHICLES.

(b) A vehicle, other than a motor-driven cycle, that is
parked or stopped on a roadway or shoulder at a time specified in
Section 547.302(a) (nightime or when persons or vehicles are visible at 1000 feet)shall display a lamp that complies with
Subsection (a).
(c) A vehicle that is lawfully parked on a highway is not
required to display lights at night-time if there is sufficient
light to reveal a person or vehicle on the highway at a distance of
1,000 feet.

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