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by txinvestigator
Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:47 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on in home service
Replies: 77
Views: 13616

Right2Carry wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:
Right2Carry wrote:
phddan wrote:For comfort, the ankle rig would be better, imo, while your laying and rolling on the floor.


IMHO carrying into someones home who is a customer is just bad business. I would think most businesses that sent out repair reps ECT... would have a no gun policy in effect for entering a customers home. I don't care about them leaving it in the vehicle, but I don't want someone I don't know entering my home with a loaded gun. I have no idea what kind of training that person has, and a AD in my home from someone performing a service that I am paying for is going to amount to a huge lawsuit on someone.

Family or friends that I know is one thing, a person performing a service is quite another animal all together. I can't imagine a business allowing thier employees to go armed into a private citizens home to perform work. IMHO it is not a good idea.

Sounds like you need to post the 30.06 sign at your front door, or verbally tell people that they dont have the right to protect themselves in you abode.

Dan
Being invited to someones home as a friend and going to a house to perform a service are two entirely different things. I am not really sure how the law looks at this, nor am I so sure that a 30.06 posting or a verbal warning is required for someone entering your home as a repairman.

I guess some research is in order on this.
Of course a 30.06 or verbal notice is required to legally prohibit you from carrying into a customers home. The law is the law, and it is clear.

I am curious as to WHY you think it is not appropriate for a repairman to carry into a home. Please be specific.
I don't think it is appropiate because it is my home. It is not a place of business, it is my personal home, my castle. I also believe it creates the potential for a dangerous situation. Truth be known I never really thought much about it until it was brought up in this forum. I believe most businesses will have a company policy against allowing thier technicians to carry while on a service call. There is a huge liability issue for the company in case of an AD or ND.

I suspect that most people on this forum if they are being truthful would feel the same if all of a sudden they noticed thier repairman carrying a weapon even if its an inadverdent flash.

With that said I guess for some reason I thought that private residence would be protected with the whole my home is my castle thing. It appears that I was wrong, but am glad that I now know what the law says.

The only firearm bearing person I want in my house is myself, family or good friends. I do not want a total stranger carrying a firearm inside my house.

I have been educated now and will act appropiately in the future to prevent repairman from entering my house while armed.

TXI as I said before, this is just my opinion. If someone chooses a line of work that they know will require them to enter peoples homes, ehy that is thier choice. If they think it is too dangerous find other work.

It appears that the law allows this, I on the other hand think it is wrong. We will just have to agree to disagree on this and move on.
I appreciate your polite honesty.

I would have no problem with a CHL holder carrying inside my house. As far as he knows, I am a serial killer and he is my next victim, or a home invader intent on killing all could enter while he is inside, or......., basically all of the same reasons I carry in my home would apply to him while he is in my home.

And by his having a CHL I know he is not a criminal. You don't know that about other repairmen in your home.

Heck, I might even find myself a new shooting buddy. ;-)
by txinvestigator
Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:44 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on in home service
Replies: 77
Views: 13616

BrassMonkey wrote:There are only two reasons a person would be carrying a concealed weapon.

1. LEO
2. CHL holder - Note the first letter of the abbreviation - C = CONCEALED
Actually, an inadverdent flash is not illegal.
If he is a LEO, say who has a side business as a plumber, he has no business carrying open while not in direct execution of his OFFICIAL duties as a LEO.
You clearly don't know the law. A LEO can carry ANYTIME, ANYWHERE off-duty.
The only way for a repairman to be legal is to be a CHL holder. If I see his weapon, he broke the law or at the very least made a BIG mistake, either in decision to carry in my home or in his methods of concealment.... Remember, this is in my home. MY HOME, My castle, my abode, my whatever...

It would never hit the papers unless we danced. If he is legal, I buy the guy a beer and/or buy him some ammo. If he is not, there is another win for CHL's in Texas...
don't be so sure. If I was a repairman in your home, and you saw my firearm and pointed a gun at me I would shoot you. Period. If for some reason I couldn't, I would file on you for deadly conduct, at the very least. I would also sue you from here to eternity.
by txinvestigator
Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:39 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on in home service
Replies: 77
Views: 13616

BrassMonkey wrote:If a repairman came into my home and was carrying and I had no idea. So be it. If I see it while he is inside my home, I am disarming him at gunpoint until he produces a valid CHL and/or my PD shows up. Of course, Panic button is getting pressed before I draw on him. If everything is on the up and up, fine, he can carry, but look at how much time we just wasted and he will probably get fired for being a liability if his boss finds out.

You don't mess around in people homes, especially strangers...

My sign says, "We don't call 911"
****and there it is, I knew it******

Really? I call that panic. Perhaps you need a course or two to calm you down. :roll:
by txinvestigator
Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:45 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on in home service
Replies: 77
Views: 13616

Right2Carry wrote:
phddan wrote:For comfort, the ankle rig would be better, imo, while your laying and rolling on the floor.


IMHO carrying into someones home who is a customer is just bad business. I would think most businesses that sent out repair reps ECT... would have a no gun policy in effect for entering a customers home. I don't care about them leaving it in the vehicle, but I don't want someone I don't know entering my home with a loaded gun. I have no idea what kind of training that person has, and a AD in my home from someone performing a service that I am paying for is going to amount to a huge lawsuit on someone.

Family or friends that I know is one thing, a person performing a service is quite another animal all together. I can't imagine a business allowing thier employees to go armed into a private citizens home to perform work. IMHO it is not a good idea.

Sounds like you need to post the 30.06 sign at your front door, or verbally tell people that they dont have the right to protect themselves in you abode.

Dan
Being invited to someones home as a friend and going to a house to perform a service are two entirely different things. I am not really sure how the law looks at this, nor am I so sure that a 30.06 posting or a verbal warning is required for someone entering your home as a repairman.

I guess some research is in order on this.
Of course a 30.06 or verbal notice is required to legally prohibit you from carrying into a customers home. The law is the law, and it is clear.

I am curious as to WHY you think it is not appropriate for a repairman to carry into a home. Please be specific.

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