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by txinvestigator
Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:36 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Would like to begin visiting again, and offer my apology
Replies: 61
Views: 8915

NcongruNt wrote:
txinvestigator wrote: WHat is a speed trap, how do the police lure people in to commit the crime?
My best friend's grandfather got a ticket in something that is probably a little more than a speed trap, but fits the bill. I believe it was in Arizona out in the middle of nowhere, and he was pulled over for speeding. The sheriff cited him with a speed limit change that he did not observe. The grandfather saw no such speed limit change, and had the sheriff take him back to show him the sign. When they got there, the officer took his jacket sleeve and wiped off a thick layer of mud from the sign. Naturally, the grandfather took this to court, but got no sympathy from the judge and was ordered to pay the fine.

As it turns out, the judge and sheriff had an arrangement of sorts, and the entire thing was a setup that had been going on for a long time to generate ticket revenue. Once it came out what was happening, the judge and sheriff were deposed from their positions and those ticketed were exonerated.

I wish I knew more specifics, but the grandfather has since passed on, and this predated the popular use of the internet, so I can't find any of the details online.
Although I don't doubt the possibility, how would the fact that the judge and Sheriff had an arrangement be known? Stories tend to morph as they are told down the line, especially ones this old. I also can't imagine a LEO taking a person back to the speed limit sign.

Intentionally hiding a sign would be, IMO, a trap. However, to most people the term means ANY speed enforcement. It just ain't so. ;-)
by txinvestigator
Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:00 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Would like to begin visiting again, and offer my apology
Replies: 61
Views: 8915

propellerhead wrote:Consider making it a little generic. I wouldn't be surprised if other states would like to join in and make their submissions. Did you ever read about http://www.speedtrap.org? It started out as one guy's online database of speed traps in his local area. It has then become an international registry for known speed traps... well beyond the creators dream.
WHat is a speed trap, how do the police lure people in to commit the crime?

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