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Venus Pax wrote:Charles also had an excellent point.
If an LEO is firing, he/she could be firing in all types of circumstances.

If one of us were doing the firing, the person is heading in our direction and the distance gets less and less.

What?

bauerdj wrote: I have a feeling that security guards might just fall below either LEO's OR CHL holders. TXI, what is your expierience with SG renewals?

Dave B.

Ohhhhh .....now THATS a can of worms!!

KBCraig wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:

Diode wrote:What a couple of dipsticks, that's some insane logic. ( Jim gets on his soap box)

For 1 thing even if I miss 90% of my shots I will still get 1 or 2 of my 11 rounds of .40acp into the target! Still better odds than standing there unarmed waiting for officer negitive to save me. (No disrespect to al lthe good LEO's)

and where do your 8 other shots go? Into me or my family? How about you practice more and get better.

If Diode was an on-duty LEO, would you question where 86% of his shots (that miss!) go?

Yep. I don't want any cops shooting me or my family either.

I'm curious why you are so eager to defend missed shots by LEOs, and condemn non-LEO accuracy, since you no longer have a TCLEOSE card.

First, what does me having a TCLEOSE card have to do with ANYTHING? (and you have no idea the status of my card, Bucko)

Second, show me where I defended missed shots by LEO's?, and where I condemned NON-LEOs.

Third, I was answering a non-LEO who made comments in a discussion; I was not responding to a LEO who asked the question.

Fourth, wannabe? Thats funny coming from you.

Fifth, where did you get that huge chip on your shoulder?

KBCraig wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:

BobCat wrote:T

Do any of you know CHL holders who carry but seldom shoot?

Regards,
Andrew

The overwhelming majority of renewals that come thru our doors have not shot since their last qualification.

The overhwhelming majority of our LEOs renewing annual qualification have not shot since their last qualification.

Your point is?

My point is to answer the question that BobCat asked. Did you miss his question? You quoted it. Here, I'll quote it again for you;

HIS QUESTION: Do any of you know CHL holders who carry but seldom shoot?

We see at least 80 renewal students A MONTH. The majority only shoot when they have to, even those who carry regularly.

Don't want to argue so badly that you miss the obvious.

BobCat wrote:T

Do any of you know CHL holders who carry but seldom shoot?

Regards,
Andrew

The overwhelming majority of renewals that come thru our doors have not shot since their last qualification.

Diode wrote:What a couple of dipsticks, that's some insane logic. ( Jim gets on his soap box)

For 1 thing even if I miss 90% of my shots I will still get 1 or 2 of my 11 rounds of .40acp into the target! Still better odds than standing there unarmed waiting for officer negitive to save me. (No disrespect to al lthe good LEO's)

and where do your 8 other shots go? Into me or my family? How about you practice more and get better.

Guys, do you know why SWAT teams and other speciality units have nearly 100% hits? 1, more and better practice, and 2, mindset.

I agree that the people who made the idiotic comments about hit ratios are morons, but they have a point. Hit ratios ARE low. You can't just accept the fact of low hit ratios and pray for the best. You must practice to improve yourself.

Here is a little reminder that is significant for hit ratios;

From the Texas Penal Code, Use of Force;


Text
§9.05. Reckless injury of innocent third person.

Even though an actor is justified under this chapter in threatening
or using force or deadly force against another, if in doing so he also
recklessly injures or kills an innocent third person, the justification
afforded by this chapter is unavailable in a prosecution for the reckless
injury or killing of the innocent third person.