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by txinvestigator
Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What constitutes an arrest for CHL application purposes?
Replies: 21
Views: 4033

DevilDoc wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:What county?

Tell the clerk that you need a certified copy of your criminal record from 1994 to present also
Parker County. She said something about storing the records in a railway car and that the boxes were falling apart. :roll:

Why do I need a copy of that? I only have the one arrest and some traffic violations, I haven't even had a ticket in more than 7 years.
Old Texas counties.......................... lol

If the conviction was 11 years ago, going back to 1994 will cover it, right? Even if they can't find the specific document you need, the CH will help DPS process your app.
by txinvestigator
Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:55 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What constitutes an arrest for CHL application purposes?
Replies: 21
Views: 4033

DevilDoc wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:I can see that; however, dealing for a long time with people wondering about their criminal background I have found that they know. They may not, for whatever reason, not want to say, but people know.
Oh, they definitely know that they were arrested. I don't see how one could forget it. I'm just saying that if it was a long time ago, they may not remember the specific charge.

I have an Class A misdemeanor from over 11 years ago and I didn't remember the actual charge. There was a plea and I was placed on probation. I recently had to look up the judicial records to find out the charge.

As of now, the county clerk cannot find my disposition record - she's still looking though. What am I supposed to send if I can't get a certified disposition?
What county?

Tell the clerk that you need a certified copy of your criminal record from 1994 to present also
by txinvestigator
Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:24 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What constitutes an arrest for CHL application purposes?
Replies: 21
Views: 4033

Re: Class C

S&W6946 wrote:
Even on Class C's dispositions are important. A conviction for certain Class C's in can result in a denial.
TxInvestigator, You have a lot of knowledge on the CHL laws, but I am wondering about your Class C quote above. I see nothing in the CHL laws that refers to a denial for a Class C conviction of any kind. Can you elaborate on this?

Thanks
As already stated, disorderly conduct (there are 11 Disorderly Violations listed in the Penal Code, 9 are Class C Misdemeanors) will get you prohibited for 5 years.
by txinvestigator
Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:52 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What constitutes an arrest for CHL application purposes?
Replies: 21
Views: 4033

AG-EE wrote:I guess the question is, does a ticket constitute an arrest? He was not hauled off to jail, they wrote him a ticket and took his license.
Thats what I was looking for. I don't believe that will be looked at as an arrest.
He doesn't remember the exact term used on his final disposition, it happened in 1988, it was failure to (do something) .

Speaking of that, I got a ticket for violating a city ordinance a few years ago. Is that something I need to list on my renewal application as well? It was also a Class C.
Even on Class C's dispositions are important. A conviction for certain Class C's in can result in a denial.
by txinvestigator
Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:49 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What constitutes an arrest for CHL application purposes?
Replies: 21
Views: 4033

DevilDoc wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:I find it hard to believe that he does not remember what he was convicted of.
I don't. I talk to patients everyday that can't remember the names of medicines they take on a daily basis.

Everyone makes mistakes, albeit some worse than others. If you're smart, you'll learn your lesson and continue on with a respectable life - most want to put those mistakes behind them. Others choose to continue and make the same mistakes repeatedly; ultimately never learning anything.
I can see that; however, dealing for a long time with people wondering about their criminal background I have found that they know. They may not, for whatever reason, not want to say, but people know.
by txinvestigator
Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:47 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What constitutes an arrest for CHL application purposes?
Replies: 21
Views: 4033

AG-EE wrote:What do you need to clarify, and I will ask him? I told him it would be safer to list it and DPS can ignore it, but he doesn't remember what he was finally convicted of. He believes it was Failure to Yield Right of Way, he knows it was a Class C, he paid a fine of $125, got his license back, and went home.

He said it was standard for LA police to take a license away if the offender lived in a different parish. That is/was their way of ensureing that they will appear in court.
It is common for some states to hold a person's DL until the disposition of the case. If he was convicted of a Class C he has no problem unless he does not list it.

I find it hard to believe that he does not remember what he was convicted of.
by txinvestigator
Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:31 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What constitutes an arrest for CHL application purposes?
Replies: 21
Views: 4033

Re: What constitutes an arrest for CHL application purposes?

AG-EE wrote:I have talked a friend into taking the CHL class with me (his initial, my renewal). Many moons ago he had a traffic incident and he was charged with wreckless driving (this took place in Louisiana). He was not arrested per se, but they took his license away until his trial just to ensure he would appear, only because he lived in a different county than where the charges took place. He was not convicted of it, he plead down to a Class C misdemeanor and paid a fine of $125, and his license was immediately returned.

Does he need to list this as an arrest on his application?

Thanks in advance.
Your friend should poist here, as we need to ask several question for clarification.

Bottom line, if he fails to list it and DPS discovers it, he will never get a CHL.

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